[Info-vax] Don't want that? Well, don't use that. You've got options. (Was: Re: WHY IS VSI REQUIRING A HYPERVISOR FOR X86 OPENVMS?)

[Dave Froble]

On 1/11/2021 2:54 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 1/11/2021 2:25 PM, D W wrote:
>> On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 10:45:20 AM UTC-5, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>>> On 2021-01-11 12:22:16 +0000, D W said:
>>>> what makes you think BSD is superior to the linux/windows security
>>>> risks?
>>>> So BSD is completely immune to hacks? No one can ever take over the
>>>> machine?
>>>
>>> You have the answer and the configuration you wanted with the planned
>>> native boot support for the production releases, and you don't have to
>>> run BSD or Linux or another a hypervisor if you don't want to.
>>>
>>> For security, OpenVMS has had malware—including the classic viruses and
>>> worms—over the years. OpenVMS servers have had breaches.
>
>> I have a potential customer that may want me to set up an OpenVMS web
>> site
>> with heavy traffic.
>>
>> I am trying to get questions answered but your answer is I am trolling?
>
> Your questions are pretty generic.
>
> And the approach is a bit backwards. You don't start with the OS - you
> start with the application and then you move to servers and then you
> move to OS.
>
> And VMS may not end up being a good candidate for OS.
>
> web/proxy-server : definitely not VMS
>
> app/web-server : unlikely VMS - maybe the software is not available, but
> even if it is then VMS will not be cost effective
>
> db-server : VMS could be a possibility if you want traditional database
>
>> Again how are you going to sell solutions with answers like that?
>
> Well - Hoff does not sell VMS, so ...
>
> Arne
>
>

Perhaps the potential customer already has apps on VMS, and wants to 
provide web access?  If so, then it's a bit much to tell them to look 
at other OSs, isn't it?

We are doing precisely this, however, for reasons we don't need to 
discuss, we have the VMS systems provide services for the web servers 
running on several different platforms including WEENDOZE.  Works well 
when the web developers have half a clue.  Surprising how such can so 
easily mis-use the services.

Example, one service provides inventory look-up.  It can handle a list 
of part numbers.  Thousands if desired in one request.  One web 
developer made thousands of requests, one part number at a time.  The 
overhead was quite substantial.

Got lots of stories of inept web developers.

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