[Info-vax] Don't want that? Well, don't use that. You've got options. (Was: Re: WHY IS VSI REQUIRING A HYPERVISOR FOR X86 OPENVMS?)

Arne Vajhøj arne at vajhoej.dk
Mon Jan 11 20:09:51 EST 2021


On 1/11/2021 6:50 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 1/11/2021 2:54 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 1/11/2021 2:25 PM, D W wrote:
>>> I have a potential customer that may want me to set up an OpenVMS web
>>> site
>>> with heavy traffic.
>>>
>>> I am trying to get questions answered but your answer is I am trolling?
>>
>> Your questions are pretty generic.
>>
>> And the approach is a bit backwards. You don't start with the OS - you
>> start with the application and then you move to servers and then you
>> move to OS.
>>
>> And VMS may not end up being a good candidate for OS.
>>
>> web/proxy-server : definitely not VMS
>>
>> app/web-server : unlikely VMS - maybe the software is not available, but
>> even if it is then VMS will not be cost effective
>>
>> db-server : VMS could be a possibility if you want traditional database
>>
>>> Again how are you going to sell solutions with answers like that?
>>
>> Well - Hoff does not sell VMS, so ...

> Perhaps the potential customer already has apps on VMS, and wants to 
> provide web access?  If so, then it's a bit much to tell them to look at 
> other OSs, isn't it?
> 
> We are doing precisely this, however, for reasons we don't need to 
> discuss, we have the VMS systems provide services for the web servers 
> running on several different platforms including WEENDOZE.  Works well 
> when the web developers have half a clue.

That is a common scenario.

And I don't think it is more than a few days since I explicit
listed that in another thread.

But this thread was about high volume web sites. An example
was given with a social media web site.

Those are two very different contexts.

>                                           Surprising how such can so 
> easily mis-use the services.
> 
> Example, one service provides inventory look-up.  It can handle a list 
> of part numbers.  Thousands if desired in one request.  One web 
> developer made thousands of requests, one part number at a time.  The 
> overhead was quite substantial.
> 
> Got lots of stories of inept web developers.

I believe that.

Arne





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