[Info-vax] OpenVMS Alpha V7.3x source listings

[Dave Froble]

On 7/27/2021 1:47 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2021-07-26, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>> On 7/26/2021 1:47 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-26, Timothy Stark <fsword007 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Me too. I am looking for Alpha source listings for working on my emulator
>>>> as development.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hang on everyone, hang on. :-(
>>
>> Hang on everyone, Simon's off the deep end, again ...
>>
>>> You cannot just ask for access to the VMS source listings as if they
>>> were the Linux kernel source code. :-(
>>
>> Sure you can ...
>>
>
> That's a very irresponsible attitude to take David.

Dan has a customer with a VMS issue.  I'd be very surprised if there was 
even one person at VSI that didn't want that issue resolved.  If Dan 
needs to look at sources, who besides you thinks he should not?

>>> Unless things have changed, they are a licenced product which is
>>> covered by a strict source code licence.
>>
>> Nobody wants to use them, just to read them.
>>
>
> Reading them to acquire knowledge _is_ using them.

Not reading them means a VMS customer has a problem that might not be 
solved.

>>> If you just get copies of them without approval from HPE/VSI, you risk
>>> all kinds of legal issues.
>>
>> Call HPe, say "VMS", and you'll get something like "what's that?"
>>
>>> For example Tim, you are going to end up contaminating your emulator
>>> if you use knowledge from unauthorised copies of the source listings
>>> to help create it.
>>
>> He's working on an emulator, not VMS.  An Alpha emulator is not VMS.
>>
>
> It doesn't matter. It's still contaminated knowledge that he used to
> build his emulator unless he gets the listings in an authorised way.

I can give him some of my old filch listings ...


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