[Info-vax] OpenVMS Alpha V7.3x source listings

abrsvc dansabrservices at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 27 14:08:00 EDT 2021


On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 2:00:56 PM UTC-4, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 7/27/2021 1:47 PM, Simon Clubley wrote: 
> > On 2021-07-26, Dave Froble <da... at tsoft-inc.com> wrote: 
> >> On 7/26/2021 1:47 PM, Simon Clubley wrote: 
> >>> On 2021-07-26, Timothy Stark <fswo... at gmail.com> wrote: 
> >>>> Me too. I am looking for Alpha source listings for working on my emulator 
> >>>> as development. 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Hang on everyone, hang on. :-( 
> >> 
> >> Hang on everyone, Simon's off the deep end, again ... 
> >> 
> >>> You cannot just ask for access to the VMS source listings as if they 
> >>> were the Linux kernel source code. :-( 
> >> 
> >> Sure you can ... 
> >> 
> > 
> > That's a very irresponsible attitude to take David.
> Dan has a customer with a VMS issue. I'd be very surprised if there was 
> even one person at VSI that didn't want that issue resolved. If Dan 
> needs to look at sources, who besides you thinks he should not?
> >>> Unless things have changed, they are a licenced product which is 
> >>> covered by a strict source code licence. 
> >> 
> >> Nobody wants to use them, just to read them. 
> >> 
> > 
> > Reading them to acquire knowledge _is_ using them.
> Not reading them means a VMS customer has a problem that might not be 
> solved.
> >>> If you just get copies of them without approval from HPE/VSI, you risk 
> >>> all kinds of legal issues. 
> >> 
> >> Call HPe, say "VMS", and you'll get something like "what's that?" 
> >> 
> >>> For example Tim, you are going to end up contaminating your emulator 
> >>> if you use knowledge from unauthorised copies of the source listings 
> >>> to help create it. 
> >> 
> >> He's working on an emulator, not VMS. An Alpha emulator is not VMS. 
> >> 
> > 
> > It doesn't matter. It's still contaminated knowledge that he used to 
> > build his emulator unless he gets the listings in an authorised way.
> I can give him some of my old filch listings ...
> -- 
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Thanks for the offer about the fiche, but as I stated before, I have all the fiche listings from V1 to V5.4-2 (last one on fiche) and many on CD since then.
Volker confirmed that for the module that is reporting the bugcheck, there have been no changes from V7.2-1H1.  I have these on CD, so I am good for the moment.  I await the actual dump file to move forward from here.  Thanks to all for the information thus far.  I will update this once I get the dump and look further.

Dan



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