[Info-vax] OpenVMS x64 Atom project

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On 6/3/21 06:39, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 6/3/2021 8:11 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2021-06-02, ultr... at gmail.com <ultradwc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> because then OpenVMS becomes available to the common user (desktop) apps
>>> with the ad pitch being "eliminate ransomware, malware and security tools for good" 
>>
>> Don't go there Bob. Seriously. 
>
> Why not?  It might work for some people.
>
>> VMS is missing the required desktop applications. 
>
> "Required" might not be easy to specify.  Lots of different "requirements" out there.
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>> VMS is missing security protections common in other operating systems. 
>
> You mean all those "secure" systems that are constantly being hacked, invaded with ransomware and such.  Are those the "common security protections" you're talking about?
>
> Perhaps I'd rather be not as "secure" ...
>
>> Anyone saying the above does not have a clue about what is required
>> on the desktop or what is standard on other operating systems when
>> it comes to security. 
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> "Standard" as in "known how to hack"?  Perhaps it's time for another direction?
>
> Ok, I'll admit, I don't use VMS on the desktop.  Got to have my WEENDOZE bloatware.
>
Apple turned an also-ran Unix into a global desktop & mobile OS. Remember when the VAX instruction set was designed for VMS? And yet only Apple seems to understand the combination of hardware and software is what drives sales. Other than MacOS, I can't think of a major OS that's been ported to so many different ISA. It's sad that the owners of VMS never understood that sales/engineering dynamic. So many Dilbert cartoons, so little time...