[Info-vax] Entitled attitudes, was: Re: vax vms licenses

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 3/14/2021 11:35 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 3/14/2021 9:18 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2021-03-14, chris <chris-nospam at tridac.net> wrote:
>>> It's a matter of personal ethics and we are all guilty of crossing
>>> that line, even stealing a pencil or sheet of A4 from work.
>>> I don't judge, as it's everyone's personal responsibility to decide
>>> their own actions, not mine and noone really gets away with anything
>>> in the end.
>>>
>>> However, for use of an obsolete OS that only hackers really care
>>> about anymore, the transgression looks pretty minor to me...
>>>
>>
>> The problem is that the level of entitlement someone feels they have
>> when wanting to use an old OS in violation of the hobbyist terms can
>> be seen as an indication of how much they can be trusted if someone
>> offers something new on a hobbyist licence.
>>
>> Didn't this already happen once with the PDP-11 hobbyist licence
>> when plans for a more generous PDP-11 hobbyist licence were scrapped
>> because of similar attitudes ?
> 
> It's not just about trust, or hobbyist licenses.  It's about being able 
> to continue doing something one cares about.
> 
> It's like telling me I cannot fly anymore.  Yeah, that'll work, for 0 
> seconds.

If people loose their drivers license and keeps driving then they end
up in jail.

I don't know how it is with flying, but I would not be surprised if
similar mechanisms exists.

> As for trust.  It's just too bad that the mindless corporation (HP) not 
> giving a damn about their customers.  They should have made it possible 
> for people to continue using VAX/VMS.  Such a simple thing.  But they 
> failed to do so.  Put that into your "trust meter" and tell me what it 
> says.

HP(E) could have done something.

But they did not.

Life is not always fair.

Arne