[Info-vax] Entitled attitudes, was: Re: vax vms licenses

[Jan-Erik Söderholm]

Den 2021-03-16 kl. 19:39, skrev Simon Clubley:
> On 2021-03-16, MG <marcogbNO at SPAMxs4all.nl> wrote:
>> On 16-Mar-2021 14:16, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> DCL is only a gateway to the rest of VMS.
>>
>> Isn't that a good start for learning VMS...?
> 
> No, at least for VAX/VMS.
> 
> Since you have seen this message, you will have hopefully seen the
> followup messages which list the various features missing from VAX/VMS
> which are present in modern VMS versions.
> 

Agree. *VAX*/VMS must be the worst end to learn VMS. I have followed
this thread for a while and I would like to say, just forget about VAX!

If some IT museum or such would like to have a VAX running VMS I'm sure
that it can be solved. But for anyone else, VAX is dead as a dodo.

> Those lists are a good summary of the situation and I have nothing
> extra to add to them.
> 
>>   Do people need to burn CDs
>> and DVDs?  (I saw this mentioned among the lists of changes.)
>>
> 
> Depends on your setup. On the Alpha emulator, I just use the images
> directly instead of burning media.
> 

Or for a real Alpha, for that matter. I just copy the downloaded ISO
image to a SAN FC disk and boot directly from that. OK, you need another
system to make that copy from, but the *target* system does not need
any physical media such as CD or DVD. The whole FC setup and boot
configuration is done remotely.



> Simon.
>