[Info-vax] [OT] Vehicles, was: Re: Unexpected DECnet Phase IV functionality with possible captive account implications

[Simon Clubley]

On 2021-05-13, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
> On 5/13/2021 1:22 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2021-05-13, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Most drivers keep their car on the road.  If some don't, and end up
>>> wrapped around a tree, is that the fault of the car?  Perhaps today,
>>> with self driving technology appearing, the car might avoid the trees,
>>> but, just how new is that technology, and are we to scrap all cars
>>> without it?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, it actually _is_ limitations in the car if it's an older car they
>> are driving and they are seriously injured or killed in a crash as a result.
>>
>> There's a reason why more modern cars have enhanced safety features
>> designed to help reduce the injuries to the driver if they do crash.
>>
>> The same reasoning applies to operating systems as well.
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>
> I have a hard time understanding why all people cannot see things the 
> same, when it's so fundamental.  Such as just how wrong it is to chuck a 
> girl into a pit and start chucking rocks at her.  But, it happens.
>

I think you will find that thankfully any decent person agrees on that one.

> Simon, I'm starting to feel we could never agree on many things.  From 
> my perspective, it's because you're unreasonable.
>

No, it's because I look one or two steps ahead or because I look at
the implied issues about something instead of just looking at the
stated immediate issue.

> In my simple example, the topic of safety systems wasn't mentioned, and 
> is irrelevant.  The issue was failure to drive safely.  That has nothing 
> to do with the car, or safety equipment.
>
> I ask again, are we to scrap all cars except maybe the current year's 
> models?
>

People make mistakes. If they make a mistake while driving an older car,
then they are less protected in that case.

If only they, or the people who choose to drive with them, are affected,
that's a matter for them if they choose to drive an older car.

If other people can be harmed, then that's a matter for some regulation.

BTW, if people should be free to make their own decisions in these
matters when driving without regard to any regulation, then why do
parts of your country have mandatory chain laws for safety reasons ?

Simon.

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