[Info-vax] Unexpected DECnet Phase IV functionality with possible captive account implications

[Dave Froble]

On 5/19/2021 7:22 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2021-05-19, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>> On 5/19/2021 5:46 PM, ultr... at gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 2:55:15 PM UTC-4, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> On 2021-05-17, Dave Froble <da... at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a bit funny, and a lot sad, that even though people know what they
>>>>> are advocating doesn't exist, they still promote it.
>>>>>
>>>> The point of the list was to give Brian some ideas that do work
>>>> on VMS (NFS for example) and also list how this is done on other
>>>> operating systems using some options that do not currently work
>>>> on VMS.
>>>>
>>>> IOW, there are a number of ways to do what Brian is asking for.
>>>>
>>>> You just need to have the functionality in the operating system
>>>> in question to do it in all of those ways.
>>>
>>> there are us actual OpenVMS users who actually like the VMS file and command implementation
>>> and don't want to become linucized.
>>>
>>> If you love that crap OS so much use it but don't force those crap extensions on us.
>>>
>>
>> Every 10-20 years Bob has a winner.
>>
>> +1
>>
>
> Not really. If you want VMS to exist tomorrow, then VMS needs to support
> the protocols that other operating systems use.

But why can't it continue to support what some of us know, and like?

> By the reasoning of both of you, then you are saying that if something
> didn't originate on VMS, then it should not be used on VMS.

Now there you go again, putting words in other's mouths/fingers.  Never 
said anything like that at all.

> That means no LLVM for x86-64 VMS, no ELF for executable formats,
> none of the TCP/IP protocols, no GFS2 (assuming VSI has sorted out
> the licencing issues) and that VMS should not run on x86-64.

See how you get carried away?

> Is that really what both of you are saying ?

Where did you read anything like that?

> BTW, before Bob comments about security (as he usually does), Linux
> has mandatory access controls and other isolation options. What does
> VMS have to match that ?

No power cord?

Decent app developers?

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