[Info-vax] Command Procedure Pipe output to a variable

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In article <sh5aab$7ko$1 at dont-email.me>, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>On 9/6/2021 8:24 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2021-09-03, Dave Froble <davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/3/2021 2:30 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In the 1980s, DECnet's good points outweighed its bad points.
>>>>
>>>> In the changed world of 2021, that is no longer true.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Might I suggest that DECnet is as good as it's ever been.  What you're
>>> calling "bad points" is more like an omission than a bad point.
>>>
>>
>> The world changed David, but DECnet did not.
>
>Yeah, that's right, so?  Sort of what I wrote ...
>
>> Just one example: the implementation of proxies in DECnet opens up
>> a _massive_ security hole in today's world as DECnet was designed
>> in a world where you assumed 100% trust in the network and in all
>> the devices attached to it.
>>
>> This is because there are no shared secrets or certificates between
>> the nodes which have proxies between them so it is trivial for someone
>> with any access to the network to impersonate a DECnet node, if they
>> manage to disable the real node (to avoid conflicting MAC addresses
>> and to avoid responses from the real node) or if the real node is not
>> online all the time.
>>
>> The idea that a machine can impersonate a server simply by using the
>> same network address without needing any other information such as
>> certificates or shared secrets is unacceptable today.
>>
>> Outside of that, DECnet itself is about as secure as Telnet or plain
>> FTP and we all know how those two protocols are regarded on internal
>> networks these days...
>
>As I wrote, an omission.
>
>Do you have all that stuff as boilerplate somewhere, so you can cut n 
>paste every day or two?

My buddy Simon has completely ignored my comments on record oriented access
over DECnet.  I believe he speaks and types only to hear and read himself. 
 
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