[Info-vax] Rust as a HS language, was: Re: Quiet?

[Simon Clubley]

On 2022-04-07, Dan Cross <cross at spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:
> In article <t2mkq4$ib9$1 at dont-email.me>,
> Simon Clubley  <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
>>On 2022-04-06, Dan Cross <cross at spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Again, these people aren't fools: they understand that no one
>>> language is the One True Solution to All Problems.  The people
>>> who designed and implemented Rust are actually qualified PL
>>> people.  You seemed to have glombed onto the fan boys pitching
>>> hype and somehow think that's representative of the folks
>>> actually doing the work: it is not.
>>
>>That last bit may be possible.
>>
>>I don't know how old you are Dan, but I'm old enough to have gone
>>through the early years of Java and the insane levels of hype that
>>were being generated about Java during those days before things
>>settled down and much of it _was_ revealed to be hype.
>
> I'm old enough to remember that, as well.  Indeed, I read a
> pre-alpha Java spec and thought it was pretty nifty at the time.
> Then the snakeoil "Uncle Bob" types got a hold of it and it
> became a bloated mess.
>
>>The insane levels of promotion of Rust as "the" solution at the moment
>>remind me of those days.
>
> I wonder where you are seeing that.  Seriously.  I know and/or
> have worked with a number of members of the Rust community for
> several years (members of the core, language, and tool teams,
> for about 3 years), and they're quite gracious in admitting that
> it's not the right solution for everything.
>

That's nice to hear.

As for where I am seeing it, it's more of a combined overall impression
made up of gushing articles and what appears to be more like an organised
religious cult (:-)) showing up at the usual places online.

For example, articles that, instead of taking a balanced approach, spend
the first 95% of the article saying how great and perfect Rust is, and only
in the last 5% (if at all) start mentioning in passing the unsafe stuff
"for when you really need to do that stuff".

Simon.

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