[Info-vax] Rust as a HS language, was: Re: Quiet?

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 4/9/2022 3:53 PM, Dan Cross wrote:
> In article <6250369b$0$698$14726298 at news.sunsite.dk>,
> Arne Vajhøj  <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>> On 4/8/2022 8:57 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
>>> In article <624f89b3$0$694$14726298 at news.sunsite.dk>,
>>> Arne Vajhøj  <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>>> On 4/7/2022 11:38 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
>>>>>                               Have the likes of Robert
>>>>> C Martin ever actually delivered a large program?
>>>>
>>>> He developed software in the Telecom business for
>>>> many years before starting to focus on writing and
>>>> training.
>>>
>>> That doesn't actually answer my question. :-)
>>>
>>> Most of his publicly available experience seems like it was more
>>> in the development management space, less actually writing code.
>>
>> There are not much detail available.
>>
>> But I find it hard to believe that he walked directly from
>> his graduation to a managerial role in the 1970's telco world.
> 
> The point remains: there's little evidence available that Robert
> C Martin is as qualified of a programmer as he claims.

Except for those contributing to open source project you will
never know any details about what they have done as developer.

But does it matter?

I believe he is most known for Agile Manifesto and Clean Code.

The Agile Manifesto is about project management. So it is actually
more relevant that he has been in development management than he has
been a great programmer.

Clean Code is about development. But the content does not really
require any advanced programming skills. It requires having
seen a lot of code and been able to deduce some lessons
learned from the code and able to present them in an easy form.
So having been a consultant and been around a lot of places
is better than having worked on a few big software projects.

> On the other hand, his publicly available work is of only
> middling quality, at best,

The agile manifesto has had a great impact on the IT industry.

Clean Code is almost in top 10 when developers rate books.

The impact is there.

You may disagree with his opinions, you may dislike his
writing style etc., but need to realize that his work
has had an impact.

Arne