[Info-vax] Ghostscript and HTML Browser on X86

[Dave Froble]

On 12/14/2022 8:12 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 12/14/22 19:12, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 12/14/2022 2:59 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> On 12/14/22 14:00, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> On 2022-12-14, Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> When you're trying to sell the C?? levels on the idea of keeping
>>>>> VMS around, it does not go well telling them that in order to use
>>>>> it effectively you will also need to have Linux or Windows around.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't make much sense. z/OS has PC-based development tools,
>>>
>>> VMS isn't zOS.  Most CEOs and CIOs have heard of zOS and IBM can the
>>> same be said for VMS and VSI?
>>>
>>>> and many network or embedded devices require a web browser running
>>>> elsewhere for management interface purposes.
>>>>
>>>> VMS should be regarded much more like an embedded device than it is
>>>> at the moment when it comes to managing it, if you want it to survive
>>>> in today's world.
>>>>
>>>> C?? levels don't have a problem with management of devices from a PC.
>>>> In fact, it's a well-known and comfortable concept for them.
>>>
>>> No, but I imagine a lot of them do have a problem with that red-headed
>>> step child called VMS and will use any excuse they can find to get rid
>>> of it.
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Why do you call it names?
>
> Not much on English idiom, are we.
>
>>
>> Why would most people want to get rid of something that is doing it's job, and
>> doing it well?  Do you think they all have a death wish?
>
> One reason would be because they went to a conference, told
> their peers what they were running, and got laughed at.  And,
> yes, it does happen.
>
>>
>> Most VMs systems that exist today exist because nothing could replace them.
>> Got to wonder how many other systems can make that claim.
>
> That is just plain ridiculous.  I expect most VMS systems continue to
> exist today because of momentum, nothing more.  There is nothing that
> is being done on VMS that could not be done on another system.

Ok.  Run VAX Basic on any other system.  For that matter, run Macro-32 on any 
other system.

If one has apps that run only on VMS then ...

Yeah, anything can be re-implemented, but that costs, costs much more than some 
will admit.  To what purpose?  What's the business sense?


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