[Info-vax] And another one bites the dust....

Bill Gunshannon bill.gunshannon at gmail.com
Sun Feb 27 09:51:31 EST 2022


On 2/27/22 08:43, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 2/27/2022 7:24 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>> Den 2022-02-27 kl. 02:47, skrev Arne Vajhøj:
>>> On 2/17/2022 5:17 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> On 2/17/2022 4:41 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>>>> On 2/17/2022 3:10 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/17/2022 2:39 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/17/22 14:17, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2/17/2022 1:59 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to know just who and what the "industry" Arne refers 
>>>>>>>>> to is? It's
>>>>>>>>> always easy to use some nebulous term.  But just what is it? 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps it is a
>>>>>>>>> "transfer", as in "transfer your money to us"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is all those companies using IT. And the decisions they make.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You mean all those people running zSystems with COBOL, DB2 and CICS
>>>>>>> that actually make up the largest majority of the money makers in 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> world?  The ones who have been told for at least 4 decades that the
>>>>>>> mainframe is dead.  Oh yeah, and so is COBOL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The IT industry also include those.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But in the big picture they are a tiny part of the IT industry. And
>>>>>> not only a tiny part but also a shrinking part.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arne, when you offer an opinion, please identify it as "opinion".
>>>>
>>>> That mainframe is a tiny portion of IT today is not an
>>>> opinion - it is a fact. You can start by looking at
>>>> sales figures.
>>>
>>> As an illustration: Fujitsu will stop selling mainframes
>>> in 2030 and stop support in 2035.
>>>
>>> https://www.pcgamer.com/50-of-transactions-were-fraudulent-when-steam-accepted-bitcoin-for-payments-says-gabe-newell/ 
>>>
>>> (and they are also ditching Solaris/Sparc in 2029 and 2034)
>>
>> I do not see that the link supports that claim.
> 
> Copy paste error. Sorry.
> 
> https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/fujitsu_signposts_the_end_for
> 

I don't think it says what people are expected to believe it says.
Looks like more business for IBM as a small player not making much
profit exits the market.  The only two large players in the mainframe
world are IBM and Unisys and Unisys only has a fraction of that
market.  IBM is not going away any time soon.

bill





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