[Info-vax] Userland programming languages on VMS.

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 1/31/2022 12:33 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 1/31/22 08:36, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 1/31/2022 3:25 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>> The problem is that the ISO standard for Pascal is pretty useless. 
>>> Which is why every useful Pascal have extensions...
>>> And they are all different...
>>> Which makes everything very non-standard...
>>>
>>> But Pascal is definitely not that bad a language. But it has it's 
>>> warts...
>>
>> Pascal as in Wirth Pascal is a very good language for what it was
>> intended for: teaching structured programming. It is just that real
>> world programs need a bit more.
> 
> And, just maybe, the answer was to pick the right language for the job
> and not try to modify the wrong language to make it fit.  When you buy
> your kid one of those toys with round, square and triangle blocks and
> holes to match do you also buy them a saw so that any block can fit in
> any hole?

There are evolutions of Wirth/ISO Pascal that can be the right tool
for real world programs.

VMS Pascal and Object Pascal/Delphi as heavily extended flavors of Pascal.

Modula-2 and Ada 83 as new languages in Pascal style.

I like Modula-2 and VMS Pascal better than Delphi and Ada 83, but YMMV.

Arne