[Info-vax] Userland programming languages on VMS.

[Bill Gunshannon]

On 1/31/22 12:48, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 1/31/2022 12:33 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> On 1/31/22 08:36, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 1/31/2022 3:25 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>>> The problem is that the ISO standard for Pascal is pretty useless. 
>>>> Which is why every useful Pascal have extensions...
>>>> And they are all different...
>>>> Which makes everything very non-standard...
>>>>
>>>> But Pascal is definitely not that bad a language. But it has it's 
>>>> warts...
>>>
>>> Pascal as in Wirth Pascal is a very good language for what it was
>>> intended for: teaching structured programming. It is just that real
>>> world programs need a bit more.
>>
>> And, just maybe, the answer was to pick the right language for the job
>> and not try to modify the wrong language to make it fit.  When you buy
>> your kid one of those toys with round, square and triangle blocks and
>> holes to match do you also buy them a saw so that any block can fit in
>> any hole?
> 
> There are evolutions of Wirth/ISO Pascal that can be the right tool
> for real world programs.
> 
> VMS Pascal and Object Pascal/Delphi as heavily extended flavors of Pascal.
> 
> Modula-2 and Ada 83 as new languages in Pascal style.
> 
> I like Modula-2 and VMS Pascal better than Delphi and Ada 83, but YMMV.
> 

Isn't it interesting that Wirth called his new language Modula and
not something like "New Pascal" or "Pascal-2".

bill