[Info-vax] Taking a break - Open Source on OpenVMS Conference Calls Resume in the FALL of 2022...

[seasoned_geek]

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 8:33:33 PM UTC-5, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 7/3/2022 10:14 AM, seasoned_geek wrote: 
> > On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 1:50:47 PM UTC-5, Arne Vajhøj wrote: 
> >> On 6/19/2022 10:37 AM, seasoned_geek wrote: 
> >>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 5:49:30 PM UTC-5, Arne Vajhøj wrote: 
> >>>> On 6/18/2022 11:53 AM, seasoned_geek wrote: 
> >>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 10:32:21 AM UTC-5, Arne Vajhøj wrote: 
> >>>>>> On 6/17/2022 11:00 AM, Chris Townley wrote: 
> >>>>>>> On 17/06/2022 14:33, Arne Vajhøj wrote: 
> > 
> > This shows just how little you know. 
> > 
> > The __purchased__ item is the Windows desktop and it runs on the free Linux distro of your choice. Microsoft and Windows are no longer liable for any network breaches because 100% of the network code is OpenSource Linux which they have no control over per the license agreement.
> If MS sell an installable product with a Linux kernel and a 
> Windows desktop then they may be able to sell it because 
> their customer do not care whether it has a NT kernel or 
> a Linux kernel, but they would still be responsible for 
> the product. 
> 
> If MS tell customers to buy or download a Unix distro, 
> install it and get it running on their PC and then buy 
> and install a Windows desktop, then they would not be 
> responsible for the Linux pieces, but they would not get 
> any customers - as that is not what Windows users expect.

Seriously? Did you think about that before you typed it?

Other than a few hard core coding geeks, what Microsoft "user" installs Windows?

They go to a Big Box store, or a Web site. They buy a computer "with Windows pre-installed." It asks them for a user name and password at first boot. They have no idea how it got installed and more importantly they don't care.

Most of my corporate clients have a contract with Dell/Lenovo/big-brand-here. Each machine for each job type has a pre-configured load installed. They have a 24/48 hour replacement for any machine acting up. It's all part of the lease. That's why you see so many 4 year old machines come onto eBay advertised as "off-lease."

Windows 11 abandoned every computer made before something like two years ago.


> > That's exactly what people who know nothing said about Apple each and 
> > every time it completely abandoned a platform.
> And why Apple jumped through hoops to make the new platforms 
> compatible with the old.

Not really. 

https://www.howtogeek.com/677270/deja-vu-a-brief-history-of-every-mac-cpu-architecture/

I never heard of anyone being able to use Lisa software on Macintosh or any Macintosh stuff being able to run on iMac.

Apple completely abandons its customer base with each processor change. The switch to Apple made ARM processors for notebooks/laptops/desktops may be the only switch with a semi-compatible code base for the OS . . . assuming they stick with their butchered BSD.

> Most phone developers are busy writing apps for existing 
> phones not for phones that may show up in the future. 

Just how many phone developers do you speak with? I communicate with a few working for larger app houses. Those who work "native" are working with stuff that won't ship for a year. Many of the others bit the bullet and licensed Qt expecting Qt to handle the underlying hardware differences. Given the long list of phone hardware support feature requests, that was a bad idea, no matter how much they liked QML and JavaScript.

Phones have a market life of about six months. You need lead time if you are going to use "the cool new hardware"