[Info-vax] Microsoft (was: Re: Taking a break - Open Source on OpenVMS Conference Calls Resume)

[Stephen Hoffman]

On 2022-07-04 18:44:52 +0000, seasoned_geek said:

> On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 5:50:44 PM UTC-5, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>> On 2022-07-03 20:29:43 +0000, seasoned_geek said: I'm serious. What 
>> evidence might or will convince you to change your beliefs? While we're 
>> being serious.
> 
> Actually, Hoff, why are you having such a tough time chewing and 
> swallowing the idea the people working for Microsoft are working on a 
> "Windows Desktop for Linux?"

Because I don't see the Linux desktop as a market large enough for 
Microsoft to bother with, and WSL and WSL 2 does a good job of allowing 
those needing Linux or Unix tooling to operate on Windows with the 
Windows desktop.

And you can run Wayland or X as your UI, if you want or need that: 
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/tutorials/gui-apps

But for growth? Not so much.

As for Microsoft UIs, UWP came and went, and Windows App SDK is the UI 
plan now, and there will undoubtedly be other new choices. But—outside 
of those needing app portability—I doubt it'll be Wayland with whatever 
app toolkit being the choice for most.

More generally, Microsoft has been transitioning to Azure and to 
hosting services, as that's where they clearly believe the market is 
going and where the growth is. They want to host and manage, well, 
everything. Including with Azure AD, and the rest.

There are folks posting here—here, in usenet—that might not like or 
might not use hosting, but there are a whole lot of other folks that 
can and do use hosting, and that hosting market is consolidating toward 
AWS, GCP, and Azure.

And I'll take your reply here as also meaning "there's nothing anybody 
could cite that will convince you otherwise", and will accordingly exit 
the thread.



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