[Info-vax] The changing world

[chris]

On 07/06/22 21:19, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 7/6/2022 1:35 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2022-07-05, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)
>> <helbig at asclothestro.multivax.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Get your facts straight. While the Green party has always been
>>> anti-nuke, the decision to phase out nuclear power quickly was taken by
>>> the Merkel government (of which the Greens were not a part), a reaction
>>> to Fukushima.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, because Germany is so well-known for its volcanoes, earthquakes and
>> tidal waves. :-)
>>
>> Fukushima didn't seem to bother your next-door neighbours, the French...
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>
> Well, it really depends on circumstances ...
>
> Fukushima became a problem when there became a need for some generators.
> Otherwise, the outcome would have been much less of a disaster.
>
> Now, is anyone going to try to tell me that in the whole country of
> Japan there was not one generator that could have been provided? Perhaps
> moved on a military helicopter. With a whole 24 hours to do so?
>
> Or, was it perhaps someone didn't want to "lose face" and would not ask
> for help?
>
> So, perhaps it depends on whether the Germans can be trusted to reliably
> run a nuclear power station?
>
> Or perhaps another example was Three Mile Island, where the folks
> refused to believe a valve was open, and refused to try to close it
> because anyone could see it had to be already closed. That worked well.
> Poorly trained operators.
>
> Anything can be fucked up, unless the idiots are kept away from it.
>

Yes, Three Mile Island, where there was a substantial core meltdown. It
was contained however and monitoring since shows no increase in
cancers or fatalities in the years since. Fukushima was an old design,
not built to modern standards, with the backup pumps below sea level.
All in all, nuclear has a pretty good record, but you won't hear
anything about that from the green brigade...

Chris