[Info-vax] For sale: VAXstation 4000/90 128MB Fully Working and Tested

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 7/9/2022 8:25 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 7/9/22 19:42, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 7/3/2022 8:13 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 7/2/2022 8:26 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>> Very few of the important ones are migrating off and many of those
>>>> that do migrate into failures.
>>>
>>> Some succeed.
>>>
>>> And it accumulates.
>>
>> A recent case: Fedex.
>>
>> They are moving from Cobol/IBM mainframe/own data center
>> to "cloud native"/Azure & Oracle cloud.
>>
>> The CIO announced when this thread was going on that
>> they has already moved 80% of applications and that
>> the remaining 20% would all be done in 2024.
>>
>> He did not mention what "cloud native" covers,
>> but elsewhere it is revealed to be:
>> - Angular for client side
>> - Java and Spring Boot for applications
>> - kubernetes and docker for infrastructure
>>
>> Which is not really surprising. In the 1980's nobody got fired
>> for choosing IBM. Today nobody get fired (in a large conservative
>> company) for choosing above stack.
> 
> There has been some talk of this in Mainframe groups.  Can't wait to see
> how it turns out.

With 80% completed and the last 20% in progress, then it
seems like a done thing.

The Chase projects would be interesting to see how pans out.

>                  Diehard VMS advocates should be very concerned.  The
> same logic applies to their systems.

VMS is different.

VMS is moving to low cost hardware and standard cloud with VMS x86-64,
so that side is OK.

The problem is on the software side - VMS needs more. More open
source support and more ISV support.

Arne