[Info-vax] Special deals on Tape Drives

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 3/7/2022 8:42 PM, kemain.nospam at gmail.com wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Arne Vajhøj via Info-vax
>> On 3/7/2022 5:05 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> On 3/7/22 13:57, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> The problem with that is that VMS isn't easy to manage by current
>>>> standards although it certainly was by the standards of 25 years ago.
>>>
>>> Simon, I pretty much agreed with what you said except for this one part.
>>>
>>> 25 years ago I managed Window, Unix and VMS.  Had a nice VAX Cluster
>>> and about 100 users. VMS was by far the hardest to manage. I could do
>>> Unix and even windows with no documentation provided by the vendor.
>>> VMS was impossible without The Grey Wall.  And, if you had
>>> documentation but found it inadequate there was a wealth of third
>>> party documentation available.   lot of it free.  What was there for
>> VMS?  The Grey Wall.
>>>
>>> I had management tools for Windows and Unix like CFengine.  For VMS, I
>>> had The Grey Wall.  Do I really need to go on?  Heck, still had RSTS
>>> running in those days and even it was easier to manage than VMS.
>>>
>>> And, the worst part of it is that nothing has changed other than more
>>> and maybe better tools and documentation for Windows and Unix.
>>
>> I must admit that I cannot follow this.
>>
>> VMS system management is old and it shows.
>>
> 
> Better late than never 😊
> 
> <https://vmssoftware.com/products/webui/>
> <https://vmssoftware.com/openkits/i64opensource/VSI-I64VMS-WEBUI-V0400-2-1-RELEASE-NOTES.PDF>

I am aware of it.

But it is not my impression that it is widely used.

And one obvious explanation is that maybe the VMS system managers
doesn't see the need because they are OK with what they got.

To me GUI's for system administration is really only useful
in those cases where it is a non-IT person that has to do the
stuff.

Arne