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[Arne Vajhøj]

On 3/8/2022 6:08 PM, kemain.nospam at gmail.com wrote:
>> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Arne Vajhøj via Info-vax
>> On 3/7/2022 8:42 PM, kemain.nospam at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Arne Vajhøj
>>>> I must admit that I cannot follow this.
>>>>
>>>> VMS system management is old and it shows.
>>>
>>> Better late than never 😊
>>>
>>> <https://vmssoftware.com/products/webui/>
>>> <https://vmssoftware.com/openkits/i64opensource/VSI-I64VMS-WEBUI-V0400-2-1-RELEASE-NOTES.PDF>
>>
>> I am aware of it.
>>
>> But it is not my impression that it is widely used.
> 
> Given it is only in the last year that VSI has made these recent
> versions available, it is not surprising it is not well known.
> 
> I suspect even most comp.os.vms readers were not aware they could use
> a modern GUI to manage their OpenVMS systems (albeit not A64 yet).
That is of course also a possible explanation.

But I believe more in mine:

>> And one obvious explanation is that maybe the VMS system managers
>> doesn't see the need because they are OK with what they got.
>>
>> To me GUI's for system administration is really only useful in those cases
>> where it is a non-IT person that has to do the stuff.
> 
> Tell that to all the Windows Admin's - how many do Windows sysadmin
> duties from the command prompt?
> 
> Ever try to admin AD from a command prompt? What about file explorer
> vs. command prompt to move files around?
> 
> Granted, there are typically more advanced things that one can
> typically do at the command CLI, but for most common Sysadmin
> activities, most sysadmins would prefer a GUI.

I would expect the majority of the good Windows admin to use
CLI and PS.

If they are managing Windows Core then they don't have
the option of GUI.

 > Key point is that this is an additional option for modern operations
 > / help desk staff to manage OpenVMS X86/I64 (hopefully A64?) systems
 > in a way they are used to i.e. via a GUI.

Most modern stuff is actually command line based.

For all the container stuff then command line and various
scripts/config files is the normal (for whatever reason those
people tend to like YAML files).

I consider click system administration to be a bit 00'ish.

Arne