[Info-vax] VMS and security

[kemain.nospam at gmail.com]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Arne Vajhøj
> via Info-vax
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2022 5:04 PM
> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
> Cc: Arne Vajhøj <arne at vajhoej.dk>
> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] VMS and security
> 
> On 11/22/2022 2:06 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
> > In article <tlgnmt$1p5j$1 at gioia.aioe.org>,
> > =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?= <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
> >> On 11/21/2022 2:31 PM, Steve Kelley wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 3:25:23 PM UTC-5, Arne VajhÞj
> wrote:
> >>>> But VMS has a huge handicap compared to Linux - the interest in the
> >>>> VMS community to contribute to open source is very small.
> >>>
> >>> And until there is free access to VMS in some form (is there ever
> >>> really going to be a community license for x86?), the interest in
> >>> the open source community to contribute to VMS is going to be
> nonexistent.
> >>>
> >>> One big difference between VMS and Linux -- Linux doesn't charge
> people to become developers.
> >>
> >> One can get community license for Alpha and Itanium. Used Alpha boxes
> >> are rather cheap. There is a free open source Alpha emulator available.
> >> I expect community license for x86-64 to become available at some
> >> point in time (maybe when native compilers become available).
> >>
> >> One can get the student license with an Alpha emulator.
> >>
> >> One can get ISV license for Alpha, Itanium or x86-64.
> >>
> >> One can get an account on DECUS Eisner.
> >>
> >> I really don't see cost as something stopping those wanting to
> >> contribute to open source on VMS.
> >
> > For the future we are concerned with VSI VMS on Itanium.  Even a
> > hobbyist will probably not be willing to invest much time, effort, or
> > money for a license which might stop working less than a year from now.
> 
> It seems very likely that most CL will be for Alpha today and hopefully soon
> x86-64.
> 
> Itanium hardware will be too rare.
> 
> But I don't think it matters much from an VMS open source perspective.
> 
> If the open source supports VMS Alpha and eventually VMS x86-64, then it
> will most likely also work fine on VMS Itanium.
> 
> "VMS is VMS"
> 
> Arne
> 

As a fyi, VSI's open source web page: (great improvements)
<https://vmssoftware.com/products/list/?license=Open%20Source>

A WIP, but some good stuff .e.g. PHP V8
<https://vmssoftware.com/products/php/>


Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com






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