[Info-vax] VMS and security
Arne Vajhøj
arne at vajhoej.dk
Tue Nov 22 16:03:33 EST 2022
On 11/22/2022 2:06 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
> In article <tlgnmt$1p5j$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=
> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>> On 11/21/2022 2:31 PM, Steve Kelley wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 3:25:23 PM UTC-5, Arne VajhÞj wrote:
>>>> But VMS has a huge handicap compared to Linux - the
>>>> interest in the VMS community to contribute to
>>>> open source is very small.
>>>
>>> And until there is free access to VMS in some form (is there ever
>>> really going to be a community license for x86?), the interest in the
>>> open source community to contribute to VMS is going to be nonexistent.
>>>
>>> One big difference between VMS and Linux -- Linux doesn't charge people to become developers.
>>
>> One can get community license for Alpha and Itanium. Used Alpha boxes
>> are rather cheap. There is a free open source Alpha emulator available.
>> I expect community license for x86-64 to become available
>> at some point in time (maybe when native compilers become
>> available).
>>
>> One can get the student license with an Alpha emulator.
>>
>> One can get ISV license for Alpha, Itanium or x86-64.
>>
>> One can get an account on DECUS Eisner.
>>
>> I really don't see cost as something stopping those wanting
>> to contribute to open source on VMS.
>
> For the future we are concerned with VSI VMS on Itanium. Even a
> hobbyist will probably not be willing to invest much time, effort, or
> money for a license which might stop working less than a year from now.
It seems very likely that most CL will be for Alpha
today and hopefully soon x86-64.
Itanium hardware will be too rare.
But I don't think it matters much from an VMS open
source perspective.
If the open source supports VMS Alpha and eventually
VMS x86-64, then it will most likely also work fine on
VMS Itanium.
"VMS is VMS"
Arne
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