[Info-vax] What does VMS get used for, these days?
kemain.nospam at gmail.com
kemain.nospam at gmail.com
Sun Oct 16 19:32:24 EDT 2022
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> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Craig A. Berry
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> On 10/16/22 6:03 PM, kemain.nospam at gmail.com wrote:
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> >> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of abrsvc via
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> >> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 7:17 PM
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> >> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] What does VMS get used for, these days?
> >>
> >> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 5:26:10 PM UTC-4, Jan-Erik Söderholm
> >> wrote:
> >>> Den 2022-10-13 kl. 19:09, skrev John Dallman:
> >>>> In its glory days of the 1980s, VMS got used for all sorts of
> >>>> technical computing and business IT.
> >>>>
> >>>> My employers used it as a software development system, producing
> >>>> mathematical modelling code for VMS, plus a wide range of other
> >> platforms.
> >>>> Demand for the code on VMS shrank in the 1990s, and it became
> >>>> expensive compared to doing development on Windows. We had
> >> dropped
> >>>> it by the year 2000. We'd resume support if there was significant
> >>>> demand for it on x86-64, which is why I joined this newsgroup.
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you use VMS for in the 2020s?
> >>> Production support and control. What is called "MES" today.
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_execution_system
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> John
> >> I have direct clients in banking, manufacturing, medical lab
> >> information systems and other industries.
> >>
> >> Through my job supporting emulation environments, I reach many other
> >> industries.
> >>
> >> All working with systems powered by OpenVMS of various versions from
> >> V4 up to current VSI versions.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >
> > Not specific to OpenVMS only, but like most companies today, where a
> mixed OS environment exists and in cases below, includes OpenVMS:
> > <https://www.indeed.com/q-Openvms-jobs.html?vjk=aca6c8029c23b35e>
> >
> > No idea of how current these positions are.
> >
> > As example:
> > <https://www.indeed.com/q-Openvms-jobs.html?vjk=aca6c8029c23b35e>
> > "The Client calculates and processes approximately $8 billion of school
> funding annually. The data processing systems used are a mix of COBOL and
> SAS programs; running on an OpenVMS mainframe; reading from Oracle
> databases, SAS datasets, and flat files; and writing to SAS datasets and flat
> files."
> >
> >
>
> You also neglected to mention that the job is "replacing COBOL and SAS on
> OpenVMS with Python on Windows and SQL server databases." So it's not a
> VMS job and soon won't be a VMS shop.
>
Define "soon" ...
Seen many "projects" that start up based on some new CIO with Windows background (likely propped up by Microsoft Sales types) try to make a name for themselves and then a few years later after not delivering anything close to a comparative system is off looking for a new job. I say a CIO with Windows background because any self respecting CIO with UNIX background would at least try and keep the same database - Oracle.
This screams of a Microsoft propped up proposal.
Also, replacing a compiled application with an interpreted language??
This is where I reference a link that I have posted many times in the past: 😊
< https://thedailywtf.com/articles/Jurassic-Programmers->
Regards,
Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com
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