[Info-vax] What does VMS get used for, these days?

Dave Froble davef at tsoft-inc.com
Mon Oct 24 21:01:02 EDT 2022


On 10/24/2022 6:56 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 10/24/22 16:42, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 10/24/2022 10:06 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
>>> On 10/23/2022 7:18 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> On 10/22/2022 5:09 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>> When Banner was brought in to replace the custom apps on VMS at the
>>>>> University it was understood upfront that everything was going to
>>>>> change the users were the one's that would have to adapt.
>>>>>
>>>>> Compare that to where I worked in 1980 where I was tasked with
>>>>> developing a microcomputer based data entry system to get the
>>>>> "keypunch" people off the mainframe to free it up for production
>>>>> and development work.  The first requirement was that what I was
>>>>> to develop had to present itself to the users exactly like what
>>>>> they had been using on the Univac-1100.
>>>>> How times change.
>>>>
>>>> Usually adapting usage to the standard packages way of doing things
>>>> is the smart approach.
>>>
>>> This is where Arne departs from reality ...
>>>
>>> He seems to believe in "lowest common denominator" ...
>>
>>  > Reality is that some people suffer with poor tools, and if a well
>>  > designed package can be found, it can be an improvement.
>>  >
>>  > The other side of that is that some people are working with tools that
>>  > have been designed and refined over time to be exactly what they need,
>>  > and anything else will affect their work, sometimes quite drastically.
>>
>> Not really. I don't think you got the point.
>>
>> It may make sense to pay for a custom solution tailored for
>> specific needs.
>
> Sites like the University already had this.  Developed over many
> years and lots of man hours.
>
>>
>> It may make sense to go for a standard solution and use it
>> the standard way.
>
> Why would that make sense if you already had (and had paid for)
> the working solution your going to replace?
>
>>
>> What I am skeptical about is the approach of taking a standard
>> solution and do extreme customization.
>
> I doubt any of them allow "extreme" customization.
>
>>
>> That sort of defies the point of the standard solution.
>
> The big question is why even consider a "standard solution" if you
> already had a perfectly functioning system specific to your environment?

Because some idiot declared "but we need to use WEENDOZE" ...

Or some other OS of the week ...

Who ever made a name for themselves by doing nothing?

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