[Info-vax] macOS Terminal app. Numeric keypad fails for EDT.

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In article <af1f4659-efb8-428d-8cb5-4fb399bbe46an at googlegroups.com>, "alanfe... at gmail.com" <alanfeldman48 at gmail.com> writes:
>On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 7:04:23 AM UTC-4, VAXman- wrote:
>> In article <fc97f4a2-6e47-4dc8... at googlegroups.com>, "alanfe... at gmail.com=
>" <alanfe... at gmail.com> writes:=20
>> >Got my new Mac. Old one was running Mojave. Terminal on EISNER works fin=
>e f=3D=20
>> >or editing. My new Mac is running Monterey. I run Terminal, open a file =
>in =3D=20
>> >EDT, and the numbers on the numeric keypad do nothing. They also do noth=
>ing=3D=20
>> > at a DCL prompt. Also, the PF1-4 keys work from F1-F4, and F12 is BEGIN=
>NIN=3D=20
>> >G OF LINE.=20
>> >=20
>> >Is there some secret setting I'm missing? Or do I need a 3rd-party app? =
>And=3D
>> > if so, can anyone here recommend one? Thanks!
>> I'm still on Big Sewer and regretting ever allowing that update.=20
>>=20
>> I never really cared for the Terminal app. It functions when in a pinch b=
>ut I=20
>> have been using iTerm/iTerm2 for years. When I need to, I "$ CREATE/TERMI=
>NAL"=20
>> because I have XQuartz installed. The keyboard has never been any problem=
> but=20
>> now that you've reported this, there's another reason to never upgrade ag=
>ain.=20
>>=20
>> --=20
>> VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG=
>=20
>>=20
>> I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
>
>Yeah, macOS upgrades always seem to cause something cool to break or go bye=
>-bye. But my internal hard drive died, not easy to replace, the machine is =

I wouldn't have updated to Big Sewer in the first place.  It was an accidental
update.  I didn't want to go there because I had a number of 32-bit rocketry
apps that were never updated.  I was able to overcome most of that save for 1
that reads the data off of my altimeters.  :(  I got my son's wife's sister's
old Mac now when has an older OSX so I can read my altimeter.  Apple really
dicked up some apps I came accustomed to using.  Thw weather widget is AFAIAC,
completely useless.  If I want the current weather, I can look out the window;
the only windows I use.

  
>7 years old, meaning Apple doesn't make parts for it anymore and will refus=
>e to service it even for money, and the new M1 chip should definitely come =

I have a 2014 MacBook Air I use most of the time.  I've replaced the keyboard
in it twice already and I just put in a new battery.  Parts are readily avail-
able if you search the internet.


>in handy with NeatVideo noise reduction in my movies! (Final Cut has its ow=
>n Noise Reduction function (which, IIRC, is also quite slow), but it doesn'=
>t work that well, and you can't fully turn off the sharpness setting, which=
> seems to be what makes the result look a little grungy.)

I process video on the big Mac in the bedroom.  Mostly my wife's Mac for the
taxes and her use, but it processes the video quickly. I don't touch her Mac
otheriwse because it's for the TurbotTax which seems to need the latest and 
greatest to function each taxing season. So no matter what the cost, she gets
what she needs because I would off myself trying to figure out my way through
the government's I-will-gracously-be-your-victim-of-theft documents.


>VAXMAN, since you have Big Sur (uh, Big Sewer), do you have the same proble=
>m where ALL the shortcuts in the drop-down menus from the menu bar are all =
>grayed out? At first I thought it was a bug and their possibly non-existent=
> QA department was asleep at the wheel. Then, on the Apple "Support Communi=
>ties" board, someone said it was by design. Say what? That is so hard to be=
>lieve, I ruled it out without even consciously thinking about it. I asked w=
>hy anyone would want it that way. The poster responded, Why would anyone no=
>t want it that way? A troll? An idiot? In order to stay in the good graces =
>of the Apple police, I pretended it was a serious statement and proceeded t=
>o explain how stupid it is.

It depends upon what app is active.  Finder seems to have the grayest menus.


>Someone else said it might be as old as Big Sur. So Sir, are ALL the shortc=
>uts -- and I do mean including the active ones where the English part isn't=
> grayed out -- grayed out? Or was that introduced in Catalina or Monterey, =
>if you happen to know?

FYI, it must have been an evil spirit I aroused this morning when I replied
to your post.  The MacBook Air kernel paniced and it would not reboot.  I put
it in to target disk mode and my youngest copied my VAXman folder over onto
his Mac. I then had to reinstall Big Sewer.  I was hoping it would fix a bug 
I've reported to Apple that they say that they can not reproduce.  Something
is running and eating disk space.  The activity monitor shows nothing.  If I
don't reboot daily to free up 10s of gigs, I'm in big trouble quickly.  It
appears to be something writing temp files but I can't find it.  Rebooting
it causes all of the disk (SSD) consumed to be freed.


>BTW, Terminal has worked fine for me, once they finally allowed me to map C=
>lear, =3D, /, and * to the PFs. Actually, there is one problem: EDT (and I =
>would guess other editors -- I should try them!) full screen mode wipes out=
> part of the history buffer! Other than that, I've customized the font and =
>am pretty happy with it. It's free and it's already there.
>
>BTW, "Big Sewer" is definitely funnier than "WEENdoze."

FWIW, Safari, after today's reinstall, will no longer permit me to allow or
setup auto-play for some websites I access.  I've re-re-installed Safari to
no avail.  I've been working on a website and now I need to fire up Firefux 
to hear any sounds. SMH.

Lately, it seems OSX has more quirks than it has works. ;)

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I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.