[Info-vax] macOS Terminal app. Numeric keypad fails for EDT.

[Johnny Billquist]

On 2022-09-22 11:29, Henry Crun wrote:
> On 22/09/2022 11:10, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> On 2022-09-21 11:54, alanfe... at gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 4:51:41 AM UTC-4, Johnny 
>>> Billquist wrote:
>>>> On 2022-09-20 21:57, Steven Schweda wrote:
>>>>>> Am I the only one in the newsgroup that uses a Mac to access an
>>>>>> OpenVMS box?
>>>>>
>>>>> I use XQuartz > Terminal (xterm). With a little xmodmap action, it
>>>>> does what I need. I haven't noticed any new (xterm) trouble with
>>>>> Monterey (12.5.1, on a Pro (Late 2013)) compared with Mojave 
>>>>> (10.14.6 on
>>>>> a Pro (Mid 2010)).
>>>> I use XQuartz as well, and you don't need any xmodmap action at all.
>>>> xterm works correctly directly out of the box, assuming you just tell
>>>> xterm that you want it to behave like a vt terminal, and so on.
>>>> Can be done on the command line, or through x resources.
>>>>
>>>> For the OP, I would also suggest switching to xterm. It is a much 
>>>> better
>>>> terminal emulation than the terminal app, it's free, and contains no
>>>> funny stuff at all.
>>>
>>> Why? It wasn't the problem, and all is well now.
>>> Better how?
>>> Terminal contains no funny stuff I'm aware of.
>>
>> To each his own. As always.
>> But I can tell that terminal behaves wrong when receiving a DECCOLM 
>> escape sequence. If you are at 80 columns, and the escape sequence 
>> also requests 80 columns, terminal do nothing, which is incorrect. The 
>> screen should be cleared. And I have at least some applications under 
>> RSX that knows and expects this behavior, so the screen gets really 
>> messed up when using terminal.
>>
>> Actually, this is the first test I do with any terminal program, and a 
>> majority of them fail this one.
>>
>> I haven't really tried to see if there are other problems/errors in 
>> the emulation. That one already disqualifies it for my use.
>>
>>    Johnny
> OTOH:
> 
> see https://vt100.net/docs/vt510-rm/DECCOLM.html et.al.
> </quote>
> Note
> 
> It is recommended that new applications use DECSCPP rather than DECCOLM. 
> DECSCPP does not clear page memory or reset the scrolling regions, as 
> does DECCOLM. DECCOLM is provided mainly for compatibility with previous 
> products.
> 
> </quote>

Sure. But that hardly makes me any happier when I have an application 
that sends DECCOLM and my screen gets all messed up because the terminal 
application don't implement DECCOLM correctly.

   Johnny