[Info-vax] macOS Terminal app. Numeric keypad fails for EDT.

[alanfe...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 4:11:02 AM UTC-4, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2022-09-21 11:54, alanfe... at gmail.com wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 4:51:41 AM UTC-4, Johnny Billquist wrote: 
> >> On 2022-09-20 21:57, Steven Schweda wrote: 
> >>>> Am I the only one in the newsgroup that uses a Mac to access an 
> >>>> OpenVMS box? 
> >>> 
> >>> I use XQuartz > Terminal (xterm). With a little xmodmap action, it 
> >>> does what I need. I haven't noticed any new (xterm) trouble with 
> >>> Monterey (12.5.1, on a Pro (Late 2013)) compared with Mojave (10.14.6 on 
> >>> a Pro (Mid 2010)). 
> >> I use XQuartz as well, and you don't need any xmodmap action at all. 
> >> xterm works correctly directly out of the box, assuming you just tell 
> >> xterm that you want it to behave like a vt terminal, and so on. 
> >> Can be done on the command line, or through x resources. 
> >> 
> >> For the OP, I would also suggest switching to xterm. It is a much better 
> >> terminal emulation than the terminal app, it's free, and contains no 
> >> funny stuff at all. 
> > 
> > Why? It wasn't the problem, and all is well now. 
> > Better how? 
> > Terminal contains no funny stuff I'm aware of.
> To each his own. As always. 
> But I can tell that terminal behaves wrong when receiving a DECCOLM 
> escape sequence. If you are at 80 columns, and the escape sequence also 
> requests 80 columns, terminal do nothing, which is incorrect. The screen 
> should be cleared. And I have at least some applications under RSX that 
> knows and expects this behavior, so the screen gets really messed up 
> when using terminal. 
> 
> Actually, this is the first test I do with any terminal program, and a 
> majority of them fail this one. 
> 
> I haven't really tried to see if there are other problems/errors in the 
> emulation. That one already disqualifies it for my use. 
> 
> Johnny

Thanks for your reply. 

I originally posted here because the numbers and decimal point keys on the numeric keypad weren't working right, meaning I'd be severely inconvenienced, to say the least, using EDT. Well, it turned out to be something stupid with the Mouse Keys bit and possibly other Accessibility settings. But it's fixed now. 

NTL, I got several recommendations on getting something better than macOS Terminal. But my needs are simple. I work on DCL command procedures. That's pretty much it! I do hope to publish a couple of them on the freeware site soon.

Now, I don't even know what DECCOLM is, and have heard the term RSX, but don't really know what it is. I don't need a race car to cross the street.

The only problem I have with Terminal is that using EDT in full-screen mode wipes out part of the history buffer (not the commands, but screen output). So I have one window dedicated just for editing sessions. I assume this is actually an EDT problem, and therefore won't be cured by switching to any other emulator.

BTW, I was considering using vim!

Thanks for your post.