[Info-vax] Intel proposal to simplify x86-64

[John Reagan]

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 8:14:56 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 6/7/2023 8:00 PM, Chris Townley wrote: 
> > On 08/06/2023 00:29, Arne Vajhøj wrote: 
> >> I suspect that VMS editor choice somewhat correlates 
> >> with year of birth. 
> >> 
> >>               TECO           EDT          EVE          VMS IDE 
> >>      -1960    few/none       most         some         none 
> >> 1960-1970    none           some         most         few 
> >> 1970-1980    none           few          most         some 
> >> 1980-1990    none           none         most         some 
> >> 1990-        none           none         some         most 
> >> 
> >> :-) 
> >> 
> >> And if VSI has the same impression then they know what to focus 
> >> on to be ready for in 5 years, in 10 years and in 20 years! 
> >
> > I would guess that many more would EVE since 1990, and possibly LSE as 
> > well, which of course is based in EVE
> I totally forgot about LSE. But I guess we can lump EVE and LSE 
> together as they are from the same era. 
> 
> I don't think LSE ever became super popular. Not that great. And 
> in the old days pretty expensive.
> > Although I did have a sysadmin who even tried to load Vi(m) onto out 
> > Itanium in the late noughties. Silly bu$$er!
> There has always been a few vi and emacs users on VMS. 
> 
> Arne
LSE is my daily editor on OpenVMS.  The x86 compilers (other than C++) still have their
/DIAGNOSTICS support to make LSE .DIA files.

LSE doesn't use EVE exactly.  LSE uses TPU with a few additions.  LSE is written partially 
in BLISS and partially in TPU.  There might be some of the EVE TPU that is also duplicated 
in LSE, I don't know that history.