[Info-vax] Intel proposal to simplify x86-64

Chris Townley news at cct-net.co.uk
Thu Jun 8 19:17:32 EDT 2023


On 09/06/2023 00:11, John Reagan wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 8:14:56 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 6/7/2023 8:00 PM, Chris Townley wrote:
>>> On 08/06/2023 00:29, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> I suspect that VMS editor choice somewhat correlates
>>>> with year of birth.
>>>>
>>>>                TECO           EDT          EVE          VMS IDE
>>>>       -1960    few/none       most         some         none
>>>> 1960-1970    none           some         most         few
>>>> 1970-1980    none           few          most         some
>>>> 1980-1990    none           none         most         some
>>>> 1990-        none           none         some         most
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> And if VSI has the same impression then they know what to focus
>>>> on to be ready for in 5 years, in 10 years and in 20 years!
>>>
>>> I would guess that many more would EVE since 1990, and possibly LSE as
>>> well, which of course is based in EVE
>> I totally forgot about LSE. But I guess we can lump EVE and LSE
>> together as they are from the same era.
>>
>> I don't think LSE ever became super popular. Not that great. And
>> in the old days pretty expensive.
>>> Although I did have a sysadmin who even tried to load Vi(m) onto out
>>> Itanium in the late noughties. Silly bu$$er!
>> There has always been a few vi and emacs users on VMS.
>>
>> Arne
> LSE is my daily editor on OpenVMS.  The x86 compilers (other than C++) still have their
> /DIAGNOSTICS support to make LSE .DIA files.
> 
> LSE doesn't use EVE exactly.  LSE uses TPU with a few additions.  LSE is written partially
> in BLISS and partially in TPU.  There might be some of the EVE TPU that is also duplicated
> in LSE, I don't know that history.

Any idea when we may see LSE on X86?

-- 
Chris




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