[Info-vax] Intel proposal to simplify x86-64

[walter....@gmail.com]

John Reagan schrieb am Freitag, 9. Juni 2023 um 01:11:36 UTC+2:
> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 8:14:56 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote: 
> > On 6/7/2023 8:00 PM, Chris Townley wrote: 
> > > On 08/06/2023 00:29, Arne Vajhøj wrote: 
> > >> I suspect that VMS editor choice somewhat correlates 
> > >> with year of birth. 
> > >> 
> > >> TECO EDT EVE VMS IDE 
> > >> -1960 few/none most some none 
> > >> 1960-1970 none some most few 
> > >> 1970-1980 none few most some 
> > >> 1980-1990 none none most some 
> > >> 1990- none none some most 
> > >> 
> > >> :-) 
> > >> 
> > >> And if VSI has the same impression then they know what to focus 
> > >> on to be ready for in 5 years, in 10 years and in 20 years! 
> > > 
> > > I would guess that many more would EVE since 1990, and possibly LSE as 
> > > well, which of course is based in EVE 
> > I totally forgot about LSE. But I guess we can lump EVE and LSE 
> > together as they are from the same era. 
> > 
> > I don't think LSE ever became super popular. Not that great. And 
> > in the old days pretty expensive. 
> > > Although I did have a sysadmin who even tried to load Vi(m) onto out 
> > > Itanium in the late noughties. Silly bu$$er! 
> > There has always been a few vi and emacs users on VMS. 
> > 
> > Arne
> LSE is my daily editor on OpenVMS. The x86 compilers (other than C++) still have their 
> /DIAGNOSTICS support to make LSE .DIA files. 
> 
> LSE doesn't use EVE exactly. LSE uses TPU with a few additions. LSE is written partially 
> in BLISS and partially in TPU. There might be some of the EVE TPU that is also duplicated 
> in LSE, I don't know that history.
LSEDIT has two command languages, the older one similar to DCL, and the "portable" one. I believe this has been added due to plans to port LSEDIT to Digital Unix or whatever it has been called back then.
The portable command language and quite a number of functions have been copied from EVE (and can be found in the LSE directory in SYS$EXAMPLES).
I have ported BOX CUT/PASTE from EVE to LSE as this was missing (to be found in the LSEDIT notes conference).