[Info-vax] openvms and xterm

motk meh at meh.meh
Sun Apr 21 18:42:37 EDT 2024


On 20/04/2024 7:44 am, John Dallman wrote:

> That's an extremely sweeping statement. I'm working for a very large and
> paranoid corporation. I wouldn't try using X11 across the internet, but
> for working with a lot of different Linuxes, macOS and Solaris in a
> secured development lab, it is truly excellent, and nobody is trying to
> stop me.

I'd love that sort of gig myself, but everywhere I've been for the past 
twenty years would have conniptions if I asked to open firewall holes 
for X, or to add stuff to /etc/skel for xhosts, or to add selinux 
policy, etc etc.

> It lets me have editors and terminal windows on lots of different Linuxes
> without needing to deal with their different GUIs and desktop
> environments. As far as I can see, Wayland doesn't offer that unless you
> slap on a remote desktop protocol. I actively don't want remote desktop:
> it is not useful to me, it will suck bandwidth, and it gives me much,
> much more setup to do.

Wayland is not X. It was never designed to do that, and I've personally 
berated Keith et al about that decision. RDP pretty much exploded and 
all interest in replicated X in that way vanished, but there is yet 
hope, ie https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mstoeckl/waypipe/


> I produce closed-source commercial shared libraries that have to work on
> as many Linuxes as possible. The list of ones I have running in the lab
> isn't ludicrous, but nor is it short:
> 
> x86-64: CentOS 7.9, RHEL 8.9, Rocky 8.9, Alma 8.9, Alma 9.3, SLES12sp5,
> SLES15sp5, Ubuntu LTS 20.04 and 22.04. I need to add Ubuntu LTS 24.04
> soon, of course, and I'm getting extended support on the CentOS 7.9s so
> that products released on them can serve out their maintenance lives.
> 
> Aarch64: Ubuntu 20.04, Amazon Linux 2, and RHEL 8.9. I need to add Amazon
> Linux 2023, Ubuntu LTS 22.04 and 24.04.
> 
> Would you want to set up desktops for all those different Linuxes?

I'd probably just use RDP to be honest. Easy enough to set up on most 
thing, and the corp environment would be already glued together to allow 
it. I've used NoMachine when maintaining a farm of windows/osx/linux 
desktop/servers before.

> John

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motk




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