[Info-vax] openvms and xterm

[Simon Clubley]

On 2024-04-21, motk <meh at meh.meh> wrote:
> On 20/04/2024 7:44 am, John Dallman wrote:
>
>> That's an extremely sweeping statement. I'm working for a very large and
>> paranoid corporation. I wouldn't try using X11 across the internet, but
>> for working with a lot of different Linuxes, macOS and Solaris in a
>> secured development lab, it is truly excellent, and nobody is trying to
>> stop me.
>
> I'd love that sort of gig myself, but everywhere I've been for the past 
> twenty years would have conniptions if I asked to open firewall holes 
> for X, or to add stuff to /etc/skel for xhosts, or to add selinux 
> policy, etc etc.
>

If anyone is doing anything with xhost for X11 these days, they are doing
it _very_ wrong. :-) The only acceptable way to run X11 remotely is over
ssh (and that is with "ssh -X" and not "ssh -Y").

>> It lets me have editors and terminal windows on lots of different Linuxes
>> without needing to deal with their different GUIs and desktop
>> environments. As far as I can see, Wayland doesn't offer that unless you
>> slap on a remote desktop protocol. I actively don't want remote desktop:
>> it is not useful to me, it will suck bandwidth, and it gives me much,
>> much more setup to do.
>
> Wayland is not X. It was never designed to do that, and I've personally 
> berated Keith et al about that decision. RDP pretty much exploded and 
> all interest in replicated X in that way vanished, but there is yet 
> hope, ie https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mstoeckl/waypipe/
>

When running in a lower-bandwidth situation, what are the bandwidth
requirements with the above approach, versus running the X11 protocol
directly over ssh ?

Simon.

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