[Info-vax] openvms and xterm

[Scott Dorsey]

In article <v046mf$htb5$5 at dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo at nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 08:45:09 +1000, motk wrote:
>
>> This is what I'm saying here, it's possible to neckbeard yourself into
>> irrelevance and then you end up looking like some dude complaining
>> that's no such thing as rock and roll anymore. It's just cringe.
>
>I see that around me all the time. systemd is one obvious trigger for 
>them, but there are others (e.g. Wayland, iproute2). Some of these people 
>may be physically no older than me (I’m guessing), but mentally it seems 
>they already have one foot in the grave.

There are multiple arguments against systemd, and if you listen to the
arguments that people actually make, you might learn something about them.

There are people like me who complain that systemd is not necessary at all,
that it doesn't solve a problem on most systems.

There are other people who like the idea of a service manager, but they don't
like the idea of one monolithic clump that is the service manager but also
cron and also has fingers into other places.  These people justifiably claim
that this is contrary to the traditional Unix philosophy of modularity.

There are also people who are okay with the idea of one monolithic clump
but are offended by the non-unix-style non-human-readable configuration
files.

Pay attention to the specific arguments people make rather than just putting
them all into one category.
--scott
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