[Info-vax] Better languages than BASIC

Arne Vajhøj arne at vajhoej.dk
Fri Jan 12 17:36:50 EST 2024


On 1/12/2024 5:17 PM, John Reagan wrote:
> On 1/12/2024 4:51 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> Obviously all the non-native languages (Java, Python, PHP etc. - I
>> still recommend Groovy!) are going to grab the majority.
>>
>> But for those wanting native code (and quite some will due
>> to need to link with old legacy code) will C++ really be
>> the only choice?
 >
> I don't understand your use of "native"?  All of the compilers
> generate real instructions and are not interpreted.  Did you
> forgot to say OO?

With native I mean traditional EXE.

Yes - there were an implicit "with modern features:
object oriented, generic and functional".

>> I would hate to see that.
>>
>> I would love to see VMS Pascal and VMS Basic being beefed up
>> with OO, generic and maybe a drizzle of functional.
>>
> Implementing an OO model is quite involved.  The OO Pascal
> addendum to the standard was limited (no multiple inheritance,
> just "mixins") but would still be a beast to implement fully.
> 
> It isn't something we can hack over a weekend.  People who want
> such features will need to write that on the back of a large
> stack of $100 bills and send that to VSI.

I know it is a big task.

But when the number of bug reports starts descending towards zero
and LLVM team releases new C/C++ and Fortran compilers and no Cobol
developers want OO, then what are you going to spend time on?

Arne





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