[Info-vax] Better languages than BASIC

[Dave Froble]

On 1/12/2024 5:36 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 1/12/2024 5:17 PM, John Reagan wrote:
>> On 1/12/2024 4:51 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> Obviously all the non-native languages (Java, Python, PHP etc. - I
>>> still recommend Groovy!) are going to grab the majority.
>>>
>>> But for those wanting native code (and quite some will due
>>> to need to link with old legacy code) will C++ really be
>>> the only choice?
>>
>> I don't understand your use of "native"?  All of the compilers
>> generate real instructions and are not interpreted.  Did you
>> forgot to say OO?
>
> With native I mean traditional EXE.
>
> Yes - there were an implicit "with modern features:
> object oriented, generic and functional".
>
>>> I would hate to see that.
>>>
>>> I would love to see VMS Pascal and VMS Basic being beefed up
>>> with OO, generic and maybe a drizzle of functional.
>>>
>> Implementing an OO model is quite involved.  The OO Pascal
>> addendum to the standard was limited (no multiple inheritance,
>> just "mixins") but would still be a beast to implement fully.
>>
>> It isn't something we can hack over a weekend.  People who want
>> such features will need to write that on the back of a large
>> stack of $100 bills and send that to VSI.
>
> I know it is a big task.

You forgot to ask how big of a stack ...

:-)

I'm guessing the top of the stack might lack enough oxygen ...

> But when the number of bug reports starts descending towards zero
> and LLVM team releases new C/C++ and Fortran compilers and no Cobol
> developers want OO, then what are you going to spend time on?
>
> Arne
>
>


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