[Squaredancing] [Square dancing] Ladies dancing without their clothes on!...
Jimbetsy at aol.com
Jimbetsy at aol.com
Mon Jun 30 23:47:02 EDT 2008
Anne,
You are perfectly right about clothing--however, we are going to a party,
and need to look nice. There are places where torn jeans and short shorts are
appropriate, others not so. I believe in being comforatable and looking good.
Here is what I wrote Heinz:
Hello Heinz,
We were at the 57th and saw several people in non-traditional attire. One
lady danced in levis--she mostly danced the boy's part. I met her several
year ago when she was asked to leave a national convention as she refused to
wear traditional attire . I thought it was bullshit then and still do.
Of course some people want to push the limits just to see how far they can
go. In today's world in which torn levis, tattoos, and body piercing seem to be
the norm, maybe we are a last bastion of good taste.
On the other hand, square dancing is a party and we usually get dressed up
to go to a party. On some occasions, only a tuxedo will do. The NEC is free to
demand whatever attire they deem appropriate, but have eased up a lot. Maybe
we can come to a happy medium. At clubs, special festivals, and so on, we
can have "casual" attire. I like the long sleeved shirts for men and some sort
of skirt for women. At larger events, we might go to 'proper' or
traditional attire. Proper would probably mean no levis or shorts, just dressy
slacks, while retaining the long sleeved shirt for men. No tie, bolo, and so on
required. I think most people will see the beauty of some of the outfits and go
to them.
Betsy only wears the long prairie skirts, no petticoats, no crinolines, and
she looks just fine! She always looks nicely turned out--clean, well dressed,
AND comfortable.
On choice of venue for a national convention. When we have 6,000 people come
to Wichita, which has no natural draw, and know that they represent only the
tip of the iceberg of square dancers, we know we are doing something right.
There may be 60,000 or 600,000 dancers in the USA. They all have fun. Sure,
some of them are older and have been dancing a long time. Did you see the
large contingent of young dancers in Wichita? They were having a ball too. Of
course when they danced in a square with other young people, they were pretty
energetic, but they danced with older dancers too and seemed to enjoy it.
One last point. Square Dancing is not going to "DIE" It is too much fun. It
will certainly change to meet changing conditions. I know that I for one,
will dance for the rest of my life, as long as I am physically capable.
Jim Pead Livingston, Texas
"Your Rovin' Corner
In a message dated 6/29/2008 12:27:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Anniebplus at aol.com writes:
I agree that women look, act and feel better when they are dressed with
crinolines, pettipants, etc. But in the summers here in AZ where the
temperature
is well over 110 most of the time, a person has to be made of ice (so as
not
to perspire) and have the bladder of an 18 year old to enjoy dressing in
"costume."
I myself prefer dancing with all the accoutrements. But if one should have
to go to the ladies room during the dance it is much like trying to pull up
a
wet bathing suit. NOT a pretty experience.
Anne
In a message dated 6/29/2008 10:08:30 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cannotdance at verizonmail.com writes:
To those who love Square Dancing,
The same old topics pop up from decade to decade. I danced a good bit in
the Eighties, and those were the days that when we
thought Square Dancing could never die. I can still remember telling
people that, "Now that I have found Square Dancing,
I shall never be lonely again." I do miss the eighties. In those days,
"Even a broke clock was right twice a day". I am not too sure
that is true anymore.
I would like to present two ideas that counter the idea that we would
have more dancers if we got rid of the "Dress Code".
My first observation may not apply much anymore due to the fact that we
do much less swinging than we used to. However,
let me assure you that in Square Dancing, and in Square Dance rounds
there is still some small amount of leading going on.
When a man swings a women, or pivots her, or twirls her, the Square Dance
Dress gives the lady perfect balance.
It feels really great to be leading a women who, due to her Dress and
crinolines, is in perfect balance.
If you watch dancers spin and turn around on the floor, it is difficult
not to notice how beautiful the female form is when she has
her crinolines floating out and her legs appear so thin because her dress
is covering up the top of her thighs, (as well as her hips),
and all one sees is the most beautiful parts of her legs.
I doubt that any male dancer can say that he was not greatly surprised on
the occasion that he first saw some of his sexiest
dance partners "without their clothes on".
I am sure all of the ladies know how much a beautiful dress improves a
womens appearance. However, I bet there are still a
couple of men who will be as surprised to find out that their favorite
corner, is actually a bit larger, and older, than she seemed when
she had her Square Dance clothes on.
I can remember being a bit embarrassed when I discovered that one of the
ladies that I had been dreaming of,
was actually nearly twice my age. (With her SD clothes off.)
So to the ladies out there, give it a little thought before you toss out
those silly old Square Dance clothes.
You might find that you will miss the gleaming eyes of the men who watch
you twirl and spin on the floor.
As for the men, at least one of us, (ME), will miss seeing you at your
sexiest.
Mick
PS--- I wonder how many little girls would love to wear crinolines?
My vote, Sexy women, who have great balance, are pretty good.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Robinson"
To: "This list for discussing all aspect of MWSD"
Subject: Re: [Squaredancing] The 57th NSDC is now history
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:21:53 -0500
At 12:09 AM 6/29/2008, Heinz D. Trost wrote:
> Ken et al,
>
> thank you for the data.
>
> >The 57th National Square Dance Convention is now history. The
final
> >total attendance number that I saw was 6,025. :-( They had
projected 7,000.
> >
> >
> >
> well, square dancing is still dying and so the Nationals is, too.
> Maybe the 58th next year will raise up the attendance a bit,
because
> Long Beach, CA is better connected to the world and more attractive
than
> Wichita, KS, was.
> But as long as the NEC still forces "proper" attire, but means
> "Traditional" in the definition of Legacy, Callerlab, ECTA and
EAASDC,
> instead of "casual" or at least "proper" in the definition of
Legacy,
> etc.,- and as long as there still are too many people in the hobby
who
> won't see the hard reality and block any major changes to adjust
the
> hobby to the needs of the actually and younger customers, square
dancing
> won't stop extincting.
Looking around the dance floors I noticed that the dress code wasn't
being enforced. There were plenty of guys in short sleeved shirts and
women in slacks dancing. I don't know the numbers of young dancers
at the convention as a percentage of total dancers, but it seemed to
me, there were more younger dancers there this year than I remember
in previous years. And not all were from exhibition groups. In fact,
there was one major exhibition group missing this year -- The
Maycroft Square Tappers.
It would be interesting to see the percentage of youth dancers at the
last few conventions.
Ken
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