[Info-vax] Comment on the future of OpenVMS

[John Santos]

In article <IhhGm.12471$U5.180418 at newsb.telia.net>, jan-
erik.soderholm at telia.com says...> 
> FredK wrote:
> > 
> > "seasoned_geek" <roland at logikalsolutions.com> wrote in message 
> > news:fb59f1bd-cb14-48bc-881d-4147d1ab29f6 at z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> >  On Oct 27, 12:03 pm, Jan-Erik Söderholm <jan-erik.soderh... at telia.com> 
> > wrote:
> >> 

Jan-Erik said this:
> >> Maybe India but still HP so not outsourced.
> > 

SG said this:
> > HP OpenVMS Engineering has been outsourced to India.
> > 

Fred said this:
> > Outsourcing implies the work is done by an outside company.  The 
> > engineering group in India, which has worked on various parts of VMS for
> >  years, is part of HP.
> 

JE:
> So then *not* "outsourced", right ?
> 
> > 

SG:
> > What makes you believe HP has even one U.S. citizen still working on 
> > OpenVMS development?
> 

JE:
> I have never said I believe that, and I couldn't care less.
> I have just said that VMS has not been *outsourced*.

me:

Jan-Erik, the quoting in Fred's post was strange.  At least, in
my newsreader, I couldn't tell what Fred was saying and what 
seasoned_geek (Roland) was saying.  (Roland had quoted you in a
more-conventional fashion.)

But I think here Fred was replying to Roland, not to you.


I've inserted tags indicating who I *think* said what.
This clearly illustrates the value of using a standards-
compliant newsreader.


>From the headers of Fred's post:

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000
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> 
> > 

Fred:
> > I understand the sentiment of offshoring work from the US to other 
> > countries for cost reasons.  However, you apparently lack any actual 
> > experience with the individuals and organizational support.  Regardless
> >  of what you feel about the flight of jobs to India (which is a economy
> >  wide thing), the actual people are well educated, smart, motivated,
> > hard working, and highly capable.
> 


JE:
> Yes, that is also the impression I've got from the representatives
> from the Indian group that I have meet. They seems to know what
> they are doing. The future will tell who's right or wrong.


-- 
John Santos
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.