[Info-vax] OT: Intel Demos 48-Core Prototype Chip

[Main, Kerry]

Neil,

Unfortunately, the list server does not allow me to post anymore from my HP account, but in case this does not reach the list server I am cc'ing your direct email.

Here is a pretty good brochure that explains the OpenVMS Integrity licensing:
http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetPDF.aspx/4AA0-9925ENW.pdf 

Also, trade-in policies:
http://licensing.hp.com/swl/view.slm?page=xplasoft 

Regards

Kerry Main
Senior Consultant
HP Services Canada
Voice: 613-797-4937
Fax: 613-591-4477
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OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that simply works.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com [mailto:info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com] On
> Behalf Of Neil Rieck
> Sent: December-07-09 8:33 PM
> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] OT: Intel Demos 48-Core Prototype Chip
> 
> On Dec 6, 10:00 am, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spam... at vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > Neil Rieck wrote:
> > > management, then they will already be porting OpenVMS to x86-64.
> > > QUESTION: Why would they do this? ANSWER: There is still value in
> > > selling OpenVMS-based software.
> >
> > How much of an application portfolio does HP have with VMS ? The
> image I
> > have is that HP has the core operating system (with SIPs like
> > clustering, volume shadowing), and a couple of system management
> tools.
> > The rest has either been retired or sold off.
> >
> > Also, I am not sure that HP is a software company.  Remember that ESS
> is
> > now ESN. Software was removed and replaced with Networking.
> >
> > It will be a while before the team in India has enough people with
> > sufficient experience to accept a project as large as porting to a
> new
> > platform.
> >
> > They may have the drones who can recompile and package stuff, but
> they
> > still need a large enough team of experienced people to do the big
> > porting stuff at the console/kernel/driver level. Having a couple of
> > experienced folks isn't enough.
> >
> > So the covert port of VMS that was done in the basement of ZKO has
> > probably been shelved for many years, unless HP is covertly hiring ex
> > VMS engineers who would do such a covert port in their own covert
> basement.
> 
> Well, when we moved from VAX to Alpha I remember Compaq being VERY
> interested in selling us new licenses for our layered products.
> Through their trade-in program we received 50% discounts but I still
> remembering paying big bucks for: "128 User", "FMS User", "FMS
> Development", BASIC Compiler ($25K), C, C++, etc. We had some problems
> activating a second CPU in our DS-20e only to discover that we needed
> a license for that too! We didn't bother upgrading our "host-based
> shadow license" as we were moving to controller-based RAID. We were
> asked about buying "TCPIP Services for OpenVMS" but declined since our
> applications were tied to TCPware.
> 
> I attended an OpenVMS licensing seminar a few years back and was told
> that HP was simplifying OpenVMS Licensing for Itanium. I'm not sure if
> simplified licensing has happened with OpenVMS on Alpha (maybe someone
> else could provide more recent information)
> 
> NSR
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