[Info-vax] More proof there are no OpenVMS sites/jobs in the DOD

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 12-11-2010 14:04, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> In article<00AA65EE.4A8ED8D7 at sendspamhere.org>,
> 	VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG writes:
>> Once again, you shot this messenger for discussing another messenger's
>> message.  Yeah, the term DoD is abused and misused to mean most gov't
>> jobs.  I took a "DoD" job at GE AstroSpace years ago to work on NASA's
>> Mars Observer and I needed clearance.  Clearly not because NASA is DoD
>> but because there was work being done by GE Astro for the DoD.  There
>> was no need, however, to get so haughty because you are c.o.v's self-
>> proclaimed expert on all things gov't and DoD VMS related.  I merely
>> relayed what I found when following the initially posted URL.  Frank
>> should be shot down too for posting the URL, I suppose, since it does
>> not bode well with your "THERE'S NO VMS WHATSOEVER IN GOV'T" mantra.
>
> I have never said there are none.  In fact, I have pointed out some of the
> one's I am still very familiar with.  But they are all legacy and in many
> cases still 9and will remain) VAX.  I also pointed out that the requirements
> for approved DOD Information Systems are set by DISA, who I worked for
> both part and full time for several years recently, and that DISA has no
> standards in place nor any interest in establishing standards for the
> approval of VMS systems.  That doesn't mean that one can not have one,
> only that the procedure to actually get one approved is extremely difficult,
> very convoluted and will involve signing off by a number of PHB's who will
> have never heard of VMS.  How many people do you think are going to be
> willing to "go the extra mile" just to have a VMS system in their shop?
> And remember, we are talking government employees here!!  Just what is
> it that you think they will want to run that would require them to have
> VMS as opposed to any of a dozen other already apporoved operating systems.

Which means that DoD are not that different from many other places.

> Don't confuse your perception with reality.  I am not anti-VMS.  I am
> pro-reality.  I fought the good fight right here at the University
> until they basicly ordered me to get the VMS machines out of the labs
> where they were wasting space. (To be honest, they did the same thing
> over my PDP-11's, Sun's and SGI's.  :-)

Same.

Arne