[Info-vax] [OT] Programming languages on Unix, was: Re: [OT] Unix terminal drivers

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

Bernard Giroud wrote 2012-05-21 17:21:
> Le 21/05/2012 17:05, Dirk Munk a écrit :
>> Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> On 2012-05-21, Paul Sture<paul at sture.ch> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 20 May 2012 23:51:17 +0000, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2012-05-20, David Froble<davef at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't know much (anything) about Unix, but with the tools on VMS some
>>>>>> very capable input functions can be implemented. What's important to
>>>>>> me is, on VMS I don't have to use "C".
>>>>>
>>>>> Strangely enough, I'm not forced to use C on Unix either. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> My day-to-day languages on Unix include C, Ada, Python, PHP (work only;
>>>>> you won't catch me using it at home), and bash for shell scripting.
>>>>
>>>> I came across this rant about PHP over the weekend.
>>>>
>>>> "PHP: a fractal of bad design"
>>>>
>>>> http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
>>>>
>>>>> Other languages I have used or have considered using on Unix over the
>>>>> years include Fortran, Java, COBOL, Pascal, Modula-2 and C++.
>>>>
>>>> I was looking for a Unix COBOL a few years ago, but came up with a
>>>> blank,
>>>> though I will admit I was looking at free/cheap solutions.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The two I know about are:
>>>
>>> OpenCOBOL at http://www.opencobol.org/
>>
>> OpenCobol 1.0 dates from 2008, OpenCobol 1.1 beta dates from 2007. No
>> updates in 4 years? Seems a rather dead project to me.
>
> No. It is not ! But Roger While is working alone on a major update. In the
> meantime, Brian Tiffin has just uploaded on Sourceforge the current
> version, wrongly named OpenCobol 1.1 prerelease (or Beta) IMHO. It is a
> mature project although there is still room for improvement.
>>

Who is the target for this kind of tool?
A major company looking at porting their bet-their-business
COBOL applications from OpenVMS to Linux ?

I don't know...

Or is it just for happy-hackers that couldn't care less
if the tool suddenly dies?

Jan-Erik.


>>
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> TinyCOBOL at http://tiny-cobol.sourceforge.net/
>>>
>>> TinyCOBOL development has now ended. COBOL is a language I considered
>>> using on Unix but never actually did, so I don't know what quality and
>>> functionality the compilers possess.
>>>
>>> I've found the following link which should give you a overview for the
>>> other languages on my list:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compilers
>>>
>>> Modula-2 is not on that list however, and can be found at:
>>>
>>> http://www.nongnu.org/gm2/homepage.html
>>>
>>> That is the other language I considered, but never used so I also don't
>>> know the quality of the port. Be aware that it's based on what is now
>>> a old version of gcc (4.1.2).
>>>
>>> For Pascal, the GNU Pascal port is seriously dated, so you are probably
>>> far better off with the Free Pascal port. It's been many years since I
>>> last used either of them however, so my knowledge about them is not
>>> current.
>>>
>>> Simon.
>>>
>>
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