[Info-vax] Long uptime cut short by Hurricane Sandy

Bill Gunshannon billg999 at cs.uofs.edu
Tue Feb 5 09:37:33 EST 2013


In article <keqch3$tvq$1 at solani.org>,
	Michael Kraemer <M.Kraemer at gsi.de> writes:
> Bill Gunshannon schrieb:
> 
>> Well, I have seen nmerous people here lament the fact that the only
>> version of emacs available on VMS is rather dated.  Are you saying
>> that there really is no one who wants a newer emacs on VMS?
> 
> Can't speak for others, but nedit is just as "good" as emacs
> but it has a much lower footprint, for both, compiling
> and usage.

Really?  You can play "Doctor" with nedit?  :-)

> 
> 
>> I wasn't doing emacs for me.  While I have used emacs for decades
>> when on VMS I tend to use EDT or LSE. And don't knock my VS3100's.
>> They have served em well for quite some time and others, as well.
> 
> I didn't knock on them.
> Just suggested that one shouldn't try to throw modern bloat
> at them. Otoh, back then they were used for all kinds
> of graphics related stuff, so it's possible.
> "nedit" is an example for a fully functional GUI
> oriented software which doesn't need lots of resources.
> 
>> I would think a decent version of X would be desirous but if it
>> were een possible itis beyond my meager resources.  :-)
> 
> as I wrote: use the browser to search eBay for more RAM.

I was refering to "My" meager resources, not the VS3100.  Lack of
info on the graphics (were they ever released?)  Lack of knowledge
about the deep down stuff in VMS.   Etc.

> 
>> 
>> What's wrong with pine (now alpine)?
>> 
> 
> nothing, as long as you don't want to
> seamlessly view attachments.
> Which most people would want.

Actually, pine did that just fine, as long as you had the needed
programs on your system.

> 
>> 
>>>                       and news client
>> 
>> 
>> Hmmm...  I wonder if Knews could be made to work?  That has
>> always been my favorite.
> 
> There once was a DECwindows variant of xrn, dxrn?.

Was never a fan of rn, but I guess it was OK.

> 
>> 
>> Don't understand this.  Did someone say they needed RAM?
>>  
> 
> I'm quite sure you would want some as soon as you
> start to seriously use a VS3100.
 
Unless the VS3100 is already at the max.  :-)

bill

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