[Info-vax] OpenVMS in the future, Open sourced or Closed? Intent is to keep it...

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <36636a35-b912-43bc-a798-b397d8bb8f0f at googlegroups.com>,
	seasoned_geek <roland at logikalsolutions.com> writes:
> On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 3:15:56 PM UTC-5, Bob Koehler wrote:
>> In article <3176a8dd-73a5-4ecd-aac4-b0edbeef01b4 at googlegroups.com>, seasoned_geek <> writes:
>> > On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 12:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bob Koehler wrote:
>> >> In article <1d5da2d1-2336-456b-8111-02d598b29acb at googlegroups.com>, seasoned_geek writes:
>> >> > 
>> >> > Why will VMS have a life span of 15 minutes once ported to the x86? Because=
>> >> >  absolutely NOTHING is respected on the x86. Period.
>> >> 
>> >>    Not one of your arguments has anything to do with the platform, they
>> >>    all have to do with the software.
>> > 
>> > The have to do with the platform. Do a Web search for how many blades Amazon, Google, and the other major server farms fry in a day.
>> 
>>    Irrelevant.  I've had many VAXen and fried a couple.  They've got
>>    thousands of blades and fried a few.  SOunds like the same statistics
>>    to me.
>> 
> I guess you are really hard of hearing then. AWS has had massive outages multiple times all due to hardware failures. One outage stretched on for a week for many subscribing sites because Amazon fried sooooo many x86 servers in a single day they exceeded the JIT inventory system of their supplier.

That sounds more like an environmental failure.  Had one of them here
more than 15 years ago.  Temp in the (unmanned) computer room rose to
over 100F on a weekend. Pretty much fried everything.  Server boxes,
disks, all of it.  I doubt any VMS system would survive any better.

> http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2011/04/21/amazon-server-outage-knocks-major-websites/
> http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-outage-hits-site-globally-prevents-some-customers-from-placing-orders/
> They are sear sizzling servers at such a pace they were forced to create the following site:
> http://status.aws.amazon.com/
> Just to inform customers what no longer works. It is not just Amazon. There is now an "is it down" site which checks every one of these companies trying to run a business on a joke of a processor known as x86.
> http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/google.com.html
> yimminy, it says HSBC, reddit, and delta airlines are down right now. While reddit would not impact anyone I know, it would well and truly suck to be stranded at an airport with a cancelled Delta flight and not be able to use your HSBC CC to book another flight on a different airline.

So, with this utter disgust for the computer systems that the IT world
has chosen to be their primary, what are you planning on doing for a
living?  McDonalds?  WalMart?

bill
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