[Info-vax] What would you miss if DECnet got the chop? Was: "bad select 38" (OpenSSL on VMS)

[David Froble]

Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Dirk Munk  <munk at home.nl> wrote:
>> Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>> Jan-Erik Soderholm  <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com> wrote:
>>>> I think we have to accept that the rest of the world selected
>>>> TCPIP for networking.
>>> And, that being the case, we need to have the same features that
>>> people
>>> have liked with DECNET (such as the remote save sets) available with > IP.
>> YOU ALREADY HAVE THOSE FEATURES !!!!! IT IS CALLED DECNET OVER IP !!!!!
>>
>> Why on earth would any one try to invent something that is already 
>> there, that is plain silly. No other OS could use those features.
> 
> There's the problem right there.  "No other OS could use those features."
> 
> Maybe I want to put my remote saveset on a Solaris machine.  Maybe I
> want to put it on a disk appliance.  We live in a world where we need
> to coexist.
> --scott
> 
> 

I don't have any Solaris.

I don't have any *ix.

This is what DECnet does for me.  It can do more, but this one example is good 
enough.

$ DISK0:
$ backup/image/noalias/ignore=(LABEL,INTERLOCK) DISK0: -
         AS800::DISK2:[BACKUP]DFE90A_DISK0.BCK /save_set
$
$ DISK1:
$ backup/image/noalias/ignore=(LABEL,INTERLOCK) DISK1: -
         AS800::DISK2:[BACKUP]DFE90A_DISK1.BCK /save_set

Ok, now that considered a utility, similar to DIRECTORY, SUBMIT, and such.  Why 
argue for one and want to do away with the other?

No, I don't use DECnet for general network stuff.  TCPIP won that war long ago. 
  But that doesn't mean DECnet cannot be useful on VMS systems.

If anyone wants to cut something, climb out on a limb, and cut closer to the 
tree than where you are.  Leave my DECnet alone.  It ain't hurting you.  It 
doesn't cost you anything.

And yes, I'm aware that V could do the same, but I don't need it, IV is just 
fine for me.

Some of you must be bored and have nothing better to do ....