[Info-vax] What would you miss if DECnet got the chop? Was: "bad select 38" (OpenSSL on VMS)

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

Den 2016-09-19 kl. 08:59, skrev Dirk Munk:
> Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>> Den 2016-09-18 kl. 19:46, skrev Dirk Munk:
>>> Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>>> Dirk Munk  <munk at home.nl> wrote:
>>>>> Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>>>>> Jan-Erik Soderholm  <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we have to accept that the rest of the world selected
>>>>>>> TCPIP for networking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And, that being the case, we need to have the same features that
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> have liked with DECNET (such as the remote save sets) available
>>>>>> with > IP.
>>>>>
>>>>> YOU ALREADY HAVE THOSE FEATURES !!!!! IT IS CALLED DECNET OVER IP !!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Why on earth would any one try to invent something that is already
>>>>> there, that is plain silly. No other OS could use those features.
>>>>
>>>> There's the problem right there.  "No other OS could use those
>>>> features."
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I want to put my remote saveset on a Solaris machine.  Maybe I
>>>> want to put it on a disk appliance.  We live in a world where we need
>>>> to coexist.
>>>> --scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> That is, or better will be possible.
>>> You create a container file on any OS, and offer that container file over
>>> iSCSI to VMS. VMS will see a volume, you can format that volume with VMS,
>>> and use it to store data.
>>> The host operating system will only see a very big file, it can not look
>>> inside the container disk for individual VMS files..
>>
>> We have *all* storage of our VMS system on an IBM V7000 SAN. No "local"
>> disks at all. So all data and the backups are already on "some other
>> system". Backups are in IBM/Tivoli b.t.w. We do not handle any regular
>> BACKUP save sets at all, either local or remote.
>>
>
> Putting your VMS volumes on a multi-vendor SAN storage array is nothing
> new, it has been around for at least 15 years or so.
>
> I wonder if IBM backup haa the same functionality as VMS backup. There is a
> lot of intelligence in VMS Backup!
>
>

I have no idea what "IBM backup" is. We use ABC:

https://storserver.com/software/storserver-software-abc/