[Info-vax] Java on VMS, was: Re: So is there still a hobbyist program or not

[Kerry Main]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Info-vax <info-vax-bounces at rbnsn.com> On Behalf Of Scott Dorsey
> via Info-vax
> Sent: July 21, 2019 1:24 PM
> To: info-vax at rbnsn.com
> Cc: Scott Dorsey <kludge at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [Info-vax] Java on VMS, was: Re: So is there still a hobbyist
> program or not
> 
> =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=  <arne at vajhoej.dk> wrote:
> >
> >That businesses want a competitive advantage does not imply that they
> >need a custom IT system.
> 
> All businesses need a custom IT system.
> 
> They can get it from scratch, or they can get it from customizing an
existing
> system (like SAP, which is designed to be customized).
> 
> To get it from scratch, you need programmers who know the business and
> who know some programming environment.
> 
> To get it from SAP, they need programmers who know the business and who
> know SAP.
> 
> Knowing the business in great detail is hard.  Knowing SAP in great detail
is
> hard.  Asking for staff who have both skills is like asking for a unicorn.
> 
> Getting it from scratch is just as hard, but can at least be done in
stages.
> --scott
> 

The challenge with SAP (and often why SAP initiatives fail) is that SAP
assumes in the big picture that you will adopt your business processes to
the way SAP does them and not vice versa.

In addition, there are many optional modules in SAP which typically require
in depth knowledge of each one if you choose to use a specific module.
Unfortunately, each of these often requires a specialist with rates running
USD $200-$300/hr. When you end up having a team of these consultants at
rates like this, it is easy to see why SAP customizations often run into
many $M's to get up and running - not to mention the internal and external
Cust pain of changing your business processes to match the SAP model(s).

Great for SAP though.


Regards,

Kerry Main
Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com