[Info-vax] Suggested DCL enhancement

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 11/4/2020 11:17 AM, Phillip Helbig (undress to reply) wrote:
> In article <rnue8q$1941$1 at gioia.aioe.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?=
> <arne at vajhoej.dk> writes:
>>>> Terminal and command line are not for end users today. Not on
>>>> VMS. Not on any other server OS.
>>>
>>> That depends on the definition of "end user".  Of course, if "end user"
>>> is defined as someone who doesn't use the command line, or excludes
>>> developers, then it's a tautology.  There are certainly people (how
>>> many, I don't know) who do no system management at all and who are not
>>> developers but who work at the command line.
>>
>> Traditional division is:
>> * system managers - they people taking care of the system
>> * developers - the people creating the applications to run on the system
>> * end users - the people using the applications to do whatever the
>> purpose of the system is
> 
> Right, but who installs the application (no, no DEVOPS stuff), does
> trouble-shooting, makes backups (say, of the database, not VMS BACKUP),
> archives log files, and so on?

The system manager.

>                               I know many people who do that.

Possible.

But try to look at the big picture. Company. City. Country.

It will be:

number system managers < number of developers < number of end users

Arne