[Info-vax] Entitled attitudes, was: Re: vax vms licenses

[Oswald Knoppers]

Op maandag 15 maart 2021 om 02:18:20 UTC+1 schreef Simon Clubley:
> On 2021-03-14, chris <chris-... at tridac.net> wrote: 
> > On 03/15/21 00:55, Simon Clubley wrote: 
> >> On 2021-03-14, Dave Froble<da... at tsoft-inc.com> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Ok, the stage is yours, please explain just what it would cost VSI if an 
> >>> entity that was never going to be a paying customer happened to run VMS. 
> >>> I'll wait for you to think up something. I'll have to be very patient. 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> It's a matter of trust David. 
> >> 
> >> I feel sorry for you that you clearly unable to understand this. 
> >> 
> >> Simon. 
> >> 
> > 
> > It's a matter of personal ethics and we are all guilty of crossing 
> > that line, even stealing a pencil or sheet of A4 from work. 
> > I don't judge, as it's everyone's personal responsibility to decide 
> > their own actions, not mine and noone really gets away with anything 
> > in the end. 
> > 
> > However, for use of an obsolete OS that only hackers really care 
> > about anymore, the transgression looks pretty minor to me... 
> >
> The problem is that the level of entitlement someone feels they have 
> when wanting to use an old OS in violation of the hobbyist terms can 
> be seen as an indication of how much they can be trusted if someone 
> offers something new on a hobbyist licence. 
> 
> Didn't this already happen once with the PDP-11 hobbyist licence 
> when plans for a more generous PDP-11 hobbyist licence were scrapped 
> because of similar attitudes ?
> Simon. 

I am not familiar with this. Which PDP-11 OS licenses were scrapped?

I am running a PiDP11/70 with RSX11M-Plus. 

These are the different OSes I have (from https://www3.ispnet.net/pidp11/systems.tar.gz):

pi at pidp11:/opt/pidp11 $ ls -l systems
total 52
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 15 15:23 211bsd
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 25  2018 blinky
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 25  2018 dos11
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 22  2019 idled
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 25  2018 rsts7
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar  5 08:12 rsx11mplus
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 23  2019 rt11
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 13  2019 sysiii
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 26  2018 sysv
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 13  2019 unix5
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 13  2019 unix6
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 25  2018 unix7
pi at pidp11:/opt/pidp11 $ 

Are any of the above illegal to run?

Oswald